# Public Square

**URL:** https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/c/public/9.md

[Latest](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/latest.md) · [Categories](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/categories.md) · [Tags](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/tags.md)

---

## [What is the Public Square?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/what-is-the-public-square/448)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 20, 2018, 2:42pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/what-is-the-public-square/448 "2018-06-20T14:42:58Z")

</div>

Events and content engaging society are announced and catalogued here. Appears on the front page, and posting requires approval of moderators.

---

## [NIH Director: Image Bearers Are Not Biohazards](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/nih-director-image-bearers-are-not-biohazards/17273)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [June 28, 2025, 3:24pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/nih-director-image-bearers-are-not-biohazards/17273 "2025-06-28T15:24:36Z")

</div>

And do not overlook the full interview here:

---

## [Setting Our Scopes on Things Above](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/setting-our-scopes-on-things-above/17274)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [June 26, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/setting-our-scopes-on-things-above/17274 "2025-06-26T16:59:51Z")

</div>

We are nearly upon the 100 year anniversary of Scopes…

---

## [Casey Luskin on Adam, Eve, and Evolution](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/casey-luskin-on-adam-eve-and-evolution/16150)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 21\
**Last updated:** [June 18, 2023, 1:27pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/casey-luskin-on-adam-eve-and-evolution/16150 "2023-06-18T13:27:09Z")

</div>

Two interesting articles from a Casey Luskin: In the subtotals, the GAE and Homo heidelbergensis models perform best because they incorporate mainstream scientific views about common ancestry and human evolution…

---

## [Ang’s Round Electron is Ruling Particle Physics](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/ang-s-round-electron-is-ruling-particle-physics/15945)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [April 15, 2023, 3:48am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/ang-s-round-electron-is-ruling-particle-physics/15945 "2023-04-15T03:48:08Z")

</div>

@dga471 curious your thoughts on this interesting article.

---

## [Swamidass named AAAS fellow](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/swamidass-named-aaas-fellow/15791)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [February 3, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/swamidass-named-aaas-fellow/15791 "2023-02-03T00:37:38Z")

</div>

Swamidass is being honored for his work in applying machine learning to chemical biology and medicine, with a particular focus on drug discovery and how drugs are processed in the body. He also is being recognized for…

---

## [Nathan Lents: The Night Begins to Shine](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/nathan-lents-the-night-begins-to-shine/15679)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [January 15, 2023, 2:22pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/nathan-lents-the-night-begins-to-shine/15679 "2023-01-15T14:22:29Z")

</div>

Excellent and understandable article by Nathan Lents. It is closely related to the recent article by Erkki Vesa Rope Kojonen and another article that Lents was recently published. This continues, in a way, some of t…

---

## [The Scientist and the Questions of Race and Justice](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-scientist-and-the-questions-of-race-and-justice/15285)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 3, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-scientist-and-the-questions-of-race-and-justice/15285 "2022-08-03T19:54:59Z")

</div>

Hey all. I had a pretty intense time this past weekend discussing race and the ASA conference. It was meaningful. What are your thoughts?

---

## [Marcus Ross and Swamidass Debate](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/marcus-ross-and-swamidass-debate/15256)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [July 22, 2022, 10:51pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/marcus-ross-and-swamidass-debate/15256 "2022-07-22T22:51:47Z")

</div>

We now have the video from this debate: What are your thoughts?

---

## [The Problems & Successes of Intelligent Design (w/ Dr. Joshua Swamidass)](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-problems-successes-of-intelligent-design-w-dr-joshua-swamidass/15129)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 72\
**Last updated:** [June 28, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-problems-successes-of-intelligent-design-w-dr-joshua-swamidass/15129 "2022-06-28T13:28:18Z")

</div>

Dr. Joshua Swamidass joined me to discuss some of his criticisms of Intelligent Design. We talked about his story and the successes and failures of the movement. It is important that this perspective is …

---

## [Can Alisa Childers and Randal Rauser be friends?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/can-alisa-childers-and-randal-rauser-be-friends/15171)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [June 19, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/can-alisa-childers-and-randal-rauser-be-friends/15171 "2022-06-19T01:33:45Z")

</div>

Just had this discussion about Alisa Childer vs. Randal Rauser on “Progressive Christianity”. This is relevant because navigating this controversy is key in advancing evolutionary science in the Church.

---

## [William Lane Craig historical Adam conference](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/william-lane-craig-historical-adam-conference/15147)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [June 7, 2022, 10:26am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/william-lane-craig-historical-adam-conference/15147 "2022-06-07T10:26:08Z")

</div>

https://creation.com/craig-adam-templeton This was the workshop I attended earlier in the year. The contributors are @Andrew\_Loke , William Lane Craig, Marcus Ross, and Kenton Sparks. It was a pretty amazing workshop fo…

---

## [The Question of Human Origins: A Christian and Atheist Discuss | Josh Swamidass & Nathan Lents](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-question-of-human-origins-a-christian-and-atheist-discuss-josh-swamidass-nathan-lents/14924)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [March 17, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-question-of-human-origins-a-christian-and-atheist-discuss-josh-swamidass-nathan-lents/14924 "2022-03-17T17:02:27Z")

</div>

@nlents looks like the video is up.

---

## [The evolution of de novo human-specific microRNA genes on chromosome 21](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-evolution-of-de-novo-human-specific-microrna-genes-on-chromosome-21/14901)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [March 14, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-evolution-of-de-novo-human-specific-microrna-genes-on-chromosome-21/14901 "2022-03-14T18:27:47Z")

</div>

https://www.jjay.cuny.edu/news/search-source-our-evolutionary-distinctiveness-john-jay-college-student-researchers-discover https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.24504 From our very own @NLENTS . The ge…

---

## [Origins: Science and Faith (Rethink 315)](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/origins-science-and-faith-rethink-315/14885)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [March 9, 2022, 9:44pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/origins-science-and-faith-rethink-315/14885 "2022-03-09T21:44:02Z")

</div>

---

## [\#1 on a Comic Book Site?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/1-on-a-comic-book-site/14858)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [February 23, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/1-on-a-comic-book-site/14858 "2022-02-23T18:33:10Z")

</div>

Over 2 years later, the GAE is still getting new reviews. IN this case, we are breaking into pop culture, finding ourselves at the top of the charts of this comic book site for the last week or so. I did not expect th…

---

## [Nathan Lents and Swamidass at UNC Tomorrow](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/nathan-lents-and-swamidass-at-unc-tomorrow/14811)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 8, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/nathan-lents-and-swamidass-at-unc-tomorrow/14811 "2022-02-08T18:13:53Z")

</div>

Join us on livestream…

---

## [Ken Ham Responds to The Genealogical Adam and Eve](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/ken-ham-responds-to-the-genealogical-adam-and-eve/14674)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [January 18, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/ken-ham-responds-to-the-genealogical-adam-and-eve/14674 "2022-01-18T19:37:11Z")

</div>

Ham writes on Facebook: What he’s doing is nothing new. It’s the same old attempts many others have made over the years to come up with new creative ways of trying to fit man’s religion of evolution into God’s Word in …

---

## [Fox News: Christians point to genetics breakthroughs to show Adam and Eve are not](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/fox-news-christians-point-to-genetics-breakthroughs-to-show-adam-and-eve-are-not/14661)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [January 9, 2022, 5:41am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/fox-news-christians-point-to-genetics-breakthroughs-to-show-adam-and-eve-are-not/14661 "2022-01-09T05:41:53Z")

</div>

The secular @NLENTS noted that “science and Christianity have been pitted against each other unnecessarily. Conflicts over evolution have bred mistrust on both sides that has bled into other issues,” like skepticism …

---

## [An Unpeaceful Peace by Casey Luskin](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/an-unpeaceful-peace-by-casey-luskin/14501)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 35\
**Last updated:** [November 26, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/an-unpeaceful-peace-by-casey-luskin/14501 "2021-11-26T20:54:12Z")

</div>

This article is in strong contrast to the other one: The Evangelical Debate About Adam and Eve, though both are from Casey Luskin. There is much to disagree with here, but I’m not sure what specifically is worth spell…

---

## [The Evangelical Debate About Adam and Eve](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-evangelical-debate-about-adam-and-eve/14479)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 24\
**Last updated:** [November 25, 2021, 8:26pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-evangelical-debate-about-adam-and-eve/14479 "2021-11-25T20:26:12Z")

</div>

Over the past decade, we’ve seen numerous instances of evangelical elites arguing — and buying into the argument — that the genetic data require us to reject 2,000+ year-old doctrines about the existence of a historic…

---

## [Ben Witherington Reviews and Interviews the GAE](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/ben-witherington-reviews-and-interviews-the-gae/14454)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 27, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/ben-witherington-reviews-and-interviews-the-gae/14454 "2021-10-27T06:10:16Z")

</div>

Leading NT theologian Ben Witherington gives part one of his series on the GAE. I answered several questions in dialogue with him, which should be published everyday for the next month or so.

---

## [Creation Truth Conference: What Should Creationists Think About The Genealogical Adam and Eve?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/creation-truth-conference-what-should-creationists-think-about-the-genealogical-adam-and-eve/14110)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [October 24, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/creation-truth-conference-what-should-creationists-think-about-the-genealogical-adam-and-eve/14110 "2021-10-24T20:03:58Z")

</div>

Friday Oct. 8 Debate with Q & A 7 pm – “What Should We Think About The Genealogical Adam and Eve?” Author: Dr. Joshua Swamidass, Assoc Professor at Washington University Response: Dr. Marcus Ross, Center for Creat…

---

## [A Muslim Book Review of The Genealogical Adam & Eve by S. Joshua Swamidass | Dr. Shabir Ally](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/a-muslim-book-review-of-the-genealogical-adam-eve-by-s-joshua-swamidass-dr-shabir-ally/14379)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 15, 2021, 4:59am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/a-muslim-book-review-of-the-genealogical-adam-eve-by-s-joshua-swamidass-dr-shabir-ally/14379 "2021-10-15T04:59:23Z")

</div>

Will this is quite interesting. What do you make of it?

---

## [KMOX The Dave Glover Show in STL](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/kmox-the-dave-glover-show-in-stl/14389)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 15, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/kmox-the-dave-glover-show-in-stl/14389 "2021-10-15T14:56:22Z")

</div>

Had a fun time today on a secular radio show. What do you think?

---

## [Scientists Backtrack on Adam and Eve](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/scientists-backtrack-on-adam-and-eve/14307)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [September 26, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/scientists-backtrack-on-adam-and-eve/14307 "2021-09-26T18:30:03Z")

</div>

https://www.e-n.org.uk/2021/10/world-news/scientists-backtrack-on-adam-and-eve/

---

## [Livestream: Adam, Eve, Evolution, Creation, and Dr. Josh Swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/livestream-adam-eve-evolution-creation-and-dr-josh-swamidass/14232)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [September 10, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/livestream-adam-eve-evolution-creation-and-dr-josh-swamidass/14232 "2021-09-10T20:34:53Z")

</div>

About to livestream an interview here on the GAE.

---

## [William Lane Craig & Joshua Swamidass: Was there a historical Adam & Eve?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/william-lane-craig-joshua-swamidass-was-there-a-historical-adam-eve/14112)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [August 24, 2021, 4:49am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/william-lane-craig-joshua-swamidass-was-there-a-historical-adam-eve/14112 "2021-08-24T04:49:36Z")

</div>

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08ZSN6BY4

---

## [Veritas Forum: Behe & Swamidass, "God and/or Evolution"](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/veritas-forum-behe-swamidass-god-and-or-evolution/9643)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@AllenWitmerMiller](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/AllenWitmerMiller)\
**Replies:** 36\
**Last updated:** [August 15, 2021, 1:24am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/veritas-forum-behe-swamidass-god-and-or-evolution/9643 "2021-08-15T01:24:24Z")

</div>

Watch the “God and/or Evolution” Veritas Forum presentation recorded at the Rudder Theater of Texas A & M University, February 20, 2020:

---

## [Swamidass on The Bible Project](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/swamidass-on-the-bible-project/13945)

<div class="topic-metadata">

**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [July 8, 2021, 3:33pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/swamidass-on-the-bible-project/13945 "2021-07-08T15:33:12Z")

</div>

QUOTE The genealogical account does not prove \[Adam and Eve’s existence\], but it’s impossible to disprove the existence of such a couple 6,000 years ago. … Everyone has…

[Next page](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/c/public/9.md?page=1)