# Bechly's "Species Pairs" Challenge

**URL:** <https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/bechlys-species-pairs-challenge/15021>\
**Category:** Conversation\
**Tags:** Science\
**Created:** [April 26, 2022, 6:10pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/bechlys-species-pairs-challenge/15021 "2022-04-26T18:10:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Art](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/art/32/3805_2.png) [@Art](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Art)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 11:51pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/bechlys-species-pairs-challenge/15021/48 "2022-05-04T23:51:21Z")

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> [@swamidass](#):
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> @art, let me suggest you respond as an _article_ at PS, not the forum, with a brief intro catching people up who are just now learning about the exchange. I think that’s the format Gunter prefers, and (bonus) it isn’t possible for that to be derailed by other commenters.

I am of two minds about this. Part of me says yeah, whatever it takes to interlocute.

But then I get to thinking about how rude and dismissive the DI crew has always been towards students, trainees who are active participants in these discussions. This has always rubbed me the wrong way, and the idea that Bechly wishes to exclude this part of our group here doesn’t sit well. I like these interactions. I don’t believe the students, other faculty and instructors, and informed lay people here bring vitriol to the discussion.

I don’t think Bechly has the standing to merit such special treatment. He certainly hasn’t earned the respect he is demanding.

Not that I have made my mind up, @swamidass. However, please don’t feel badly if I opt to bring my response to the forum.

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