# Behe and Hunt: Irreducible Complexity and Numerology

**URL:** <https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/behe-and-hunt-irreducible-complexity-and-numerology/1399>\
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**Created:** [August 28, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/behe-and-hunt-irreducible-complexity-and-numerology/1399 "2018-08-28T21:26:30Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/behe-and-hunt-irreducible-complexity-and-numerology/1399/13 "2018-08-29T18:06:27Z")

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> [@The Big Picture on ID and this Forum](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-big-picture-on-id-and-this-forum/1381/22):
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> I think that’s the worst case scenario I alluded to earlier: “It’s _ **unlikely** _ evolution could work.” or “It’s _ **undemonstrated** _ evolution could work.” Choose the specific cases carefully and it’s either a defeated notion or an undefeatable notion.

It’s only undefeatable if the Darwinian mechanism cannot be demonstrated to generate an irreducibly complex biological structure like the bacterial flagellum.

If a flagellum was produced in the lab with lots of bacterial replication and knockout of the DNA repair mechanisms then his claim is toast if you can show a mutational path to the functional flagellum.

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