Billy Graham has affected the world in many ways, mostly in Bible, Theology, Philosophy, and Anthropology, also known as the Study of Man. In the 1964, Dr. Graham stated the following in regards to creation.
I don’t think that there is any conflict at all between science today and the scriptures. I think that we have misinterpreted the Scriptures many times and we’ve tried to make the Scriptures say things they weren’t meant to say. I think that we have made a mistake by thinking the Bible is a scientific book. The Bible is not a book of science. The Bible is a book of Redemption, and of course I accept the Creation story. I believe that God created the universe. I believe that God created man, and whether it came by an evolutionary process and at a certain point He took this person or being and made him a living soul or not, does not change the fact that God did create man…whichever way God did it makes no difference as to what man is and man’s relationship to God. Billy Graham: Personal Thoughts of a Public Man, 1997. p 72-74.
Charles Edward Miller, BA, Old Dominion University; MAR in Biblical Studies, Liberty University, The Graduate School-Southern Baptist Convention
I might could find one again; however, this was a quote given to the author of this book in 1997. I also heard Dr. Graham say this in 1964. I am not trying to have trouble when I say this, but I believe someone is doubting my sources. If I can find the original statement of 1964, I will gladly share it with you. You do not have to worry; I am not angry at anyone; however, I know of some who think every Baptist believes the same way, and we are evil people. I never heard of Westboro Baptist Church until Jon Garvey told Patrick that I was no Westboro Baptist type.
No no, not doubting, just trying to clarify the timeline. I’ve known about the quote from the book, because it is fairly commonly quoted (e.g. in the Language of God). I never read his book though. If it had a deeper history, I wanted to know and understand it.
Westboro Baptist Church has nothing to do with Southern Baptists.
I was a child and Billy mentioned it on TV. I was around nine years old. Did I know about evolution? Yes. My father on the advice of our family doctor said that he should get me a small laboratory for Christmas. I enjoyed it. When did I leave science except for Chemistry, men who had not faith, but claimed to be scientists drove me away. My doctor was Catholic. He told my father I had a very high ID. I was reading college English and history books when I was in the first grade. Dick and Jane by the sea shore did not cut the mustard. Now, I found the title of the book; however, Amazon did not have a copy. There was a similar book by a psychologist for sell; however, I do not believe that would be the same text. Billy’s book was -Billy Graham, Doubt and Certainties (1964). I wish I could do more. Perhaps I will find it one day in my personal library. Oh, I forgot to tell you that Nancy’s grandmother Webb was a member of the Graham family.
I too remember Billy Graham saying such things. I think I first heard Graham say something like this in a TV interview in the 1960’s. He sometimes reiterated this theme in his “Hour of Decision” radio program.
I don’t think anyone is doubting you, Charles. It is almost automatic that many scholars will naturally request a citation for such a useful quotation. We may want to cite the Graham quotation in the future and a primary source citation is always the gold standard. Your posting of the quotation is appreciated and the better we can document it from a primary source, the more valuable it becomes.
I believe you are 100% right. It is always great to hear things from you. You are also correct on the Hour of Decision Program on Radio God bless. Oh, if I were younger I would get another degree at Liberty University. It would be an MDiv in Global Studies. It is a mixture of theology, world religions, and anthropology.
An idea for a fun thread would be to imagine what additional degrees we all might want to pursue if we had the opportunity.
Even though I once taught linguistics PhD students, I lacked that degree and wish I had more background in comparative and historical linguistics. (Epigraphy would also be fun but I’m content to leave that to the specialists!) What I do know in those areas has been extremely useful in Bible translation. (Thankfully, today’s NT and OT scholars tend to be far better grounded in Biblical linguistics than the previous generation of scholars. Nobody mentions it much but so many of the flaws in the early modern English Bible translations were due to the shortcomings of even some of the most elite members of those translation committees. I found that many of them never did catch up with even the basics published by Moises Silva, J.P. Louw, Eugene Nida, et al. That is sad.)
I have no doubt that you have far more comparative linguistics training than I do! Most of my knowledge in that area had to be picked up on the side, here and there, and through my own comparisons of the limited number of languages I tackled in my coursework.
By the way, as a musician, composer, and church music director, I also find ethnomusicology fascinating, mostly because I’m interested in the kinds of mistakes which missionaries have made in that area. (Plus, I have to deal with intergenerational music genre conflicts!) Of course, your Global Studies degree would probably explore some of those cross-cultural issues.
I love to study the etymology of words and phrases, aling with the origins of idioms from across cultures. “Washed in the blood of the Lamb” comes to mind… : )
Oh, Denis Lamoureux has this in his book "I love Jesus and accept evolution. Also, I want to mention something that I know you realize. Asa Gray was a Christian, so not all nineteenth century scientists were atheistic. When I was in school and undergraduate college, many science professors pretended that all smart scientists were atheists. They said they were never theistic philosophers. I had to go to the Old Dominion library and Old Testament philosophy courses to find out differently. I worked at the Old Dominion Library to see if I wanted to go to Library School at UNC Chapel for an MS in LS. God bless you and Denis, my friends.
Jon, I hope you can answer a question for me. There is a Medical Doctor in the US who is The Plant Parodox. He is claiming medical wonders in this book and he is on the internet. There are also people that are claiming that he is a scam artist. My wife purchased this book from him; however, I ask my wife to show my doctor this. She will not listen to me. Do you know about him in the UK.
No, haven’t heard of him. But I’m always suspicious of global medical wonders being promised (which is one step beyond proposing some new or heretical theory).
In fact, the first project I thought of doing when I retired was to write a spoof diet book promising to make you slim and solve all other problems nbased on the theory of humours… I gave it up when I thought people might take it seriously (and when I ran out of in-jokes).
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