# Brian Miller: Thermodynamics and the Origin of Life

**URL:** https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/brian-miller-thermodynamics-and-the-origin-of-life/1616
**Category:** Office Hours
**Tags:** Design
**Created:** [September 13, 2018, 3:30am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/brian-miller-thermodynamics-and-the-origin-of-life/1616 "2018-09-13T03:30:08Z")
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### Author: ![Timothy\_Horton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/timothy_horton/32/9410_2.png) [@Timothy\_Horton](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Timothy_Horton)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/brian-miller-thermodynamics-and-the-origin-of-life/1616/72 "2018-09-28T20:15:05Z")

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> [@bjmiller](#):
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> Obviously, many differences exist between human engineering and biological systems, but the nature of those differences demonstrates that biological systems are the product of a much higher intelligence. The latter demonstrate greater levels of efficiency (e.g. ATP synthase) and greater levels of ingenuity (e.g. capacities of birds to navigate and control their flight).

No it doesn’t. It merely shows humans in **a few hundred years** of engineering design haven’t achieved the results natural processes working **over 3.5 billion years** have achieved.

Why ID-Creationists still think arguments from personal incredulity count as scientific evidence is a real mystery.

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