# Brian Miller: Thermodynamics and the Origin of Life

**URL:** https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/brian-miller-thermodynamics-and-the-origin-of-life/1616
**Category:** Office Hours
**Tags:** Design
**Created:** [September 13, 2018, 3:30am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/brian-miller-thermodynamics-and-the-origin-of-life/1616 "2018-09-13T03:30:08Z")
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### Author: ![swamidass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/swamidass/32/3_2.png) [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/brian-miller-thermodynamics-and-the-origin-of-life/1616/93 "2018-10-03T22:51:48Z")

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> [@bjmiller](#):
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> Speaking theologically, can the claim that living systems look poorly designed possibly fit within any traditional theistic framework? Does not such a claim imply that a Creator played no meaningful part in Creation, but we are simply an accident of nature?

I agree with you on this.

> [@bjmiller](#):
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> You have highlighted why I believe an ID perspective is essential for the advancement of biology. Materialist scientists have constantly fallen into the imperfection-of-the-gaps fallacy:  
> [Denis Lamoureux on the God-of-the-Gaps Fallacy | Evolution News](https://evolutionnews.org/2018/09/denis-lamoureux-on-the-god-of-the-gaps-fallacy/)

I also agree that this is in error. We noted this article from you here: [Denis Lamoureux on the God-of-the-Gaps Fallacy](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/denis-lamoureux-on-the-god-of-the-gaps-fallacy/1896).

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