# Carter and Sanford to dialogue with PS?

**URL:** <https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/carter-and-sanford-to-dialogue-with-ps/12645>\
**Category:** Conversation\
**Created:** [December 1, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/carter-and-sanford-to-dialogue-with-ps/12645 "2020-12-01T21:11:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Faizal\_Ali](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/faizal_ali/32/12416_2.png) [@Faizal\_Ali](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Faizal_Ali)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/carter-and-sanford-to-dialogue-with-ps/12645/1 "2020-12-01T21:11:51Z")

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It’s a pity that Carter and Sanford won’t participate in this discussion themselves and, instead, leave an uninformed and unqualified amateur to act as their surrogate and flail about ineffectually.

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**Author:** ![swamidass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/swamidass/32/3_2.png) [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/carter-and-sanford-to-dialogue-with-ps/12645/2 "2020-12-01T21:14:21Z")

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I agree and can assure you they will never participate on the forum. However a more orderly written exchange might be possible. @PDPrice let us know if they are willing to do a written back and forth based on blog posts, rather than forum threads.

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**Author:** ![PDPrice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/pdprice/32/6024_2.png) [@PDPrice](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/PDPrice)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/carter-and-sanford-to-dialogue-with-ps/12645/3 "2020-12-01T21:44:37Z")

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> [@swamidass](#):
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> I agree

As long as you’re agreeing with that kind of tripe I don’t see any chance of any productive dialogue happening at all, beyond what has already happened in the form of this article.

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**Author:** ![swamidass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/swamidass/32/3_2.png) [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/carter-and-sanford-to-dialogue-with-ps/12645/4 "2020-12-01T21:45:32Z")

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> [@Drs. Sanford and Carter respond to PS Scientists](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/drs-sanford-and-carter-respond-to-ps-scientists/12631/30):
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> > [@Drs. Sanford and Carter respond to PS Scientists](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/drs-sanford-and-carter-respond-to-ps-scientists/12631/29):
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> > I agree
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> As long as you’re agreeing with that kind of tripe

This is what I agree with:

> [@Faizal\_Ali](#):
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> It’s a pity that Carter and Sanford won’t participate in this discussion

I’m offering instead a chance to dialogue in a more orderly way that could get to the heart of the issues here, if that is what they are willing to do.

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**Author:** ![PDPrice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/pdprice/32/6024_2.png) [@PDPrice](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/PDPrice)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/carter-and-sanford-to-dialogue-with-ps/12645/5 "2020-12-01T21:57:13Z")

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> [@swamidass](#):
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> I’m offering instead a chance to dialogue in a more orderly way that could get to the heart of the issues here, if that is what they are willing to do.

Just as with last time, I would encourage you to contact us with a proposal for what you’d like to do, and then we can consider it.

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**Author:** ![swamidass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/swamidass/32/3_2.png) [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 10:34pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/carter-and-sanford-to-dialogue-with-ps/12645/6 "2020-12-01T22:34:20Z")

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Can we begin with a private phone call please?