# Daniel Arant: Questions about Evolution and Design

**URL:** <https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/daniel-arant-questions-about-evolution-and-design/12314>\
**Category:** Conversation\
**Created:** [October 30, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/daniel-arant-questions-about-evolution-and-design/12314 "2020-10-30T19:03:23Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:48am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/daniel-arant-questions-about-evolution-and-design/12314/33 "2020-10-31T00:48:43Z")

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> [@Daniel\_Arant](#):
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> I think calling someone who doesn’t believe that God was intimately involved with the emergence and diversification of life on this planet is stretching the definition of Christian to the breaking point.

Saying that anyone who disagrees with you isn’t a Christian is a real conversation-stopper. Do you really want to do that?

> [@Daniel\_Arant](#):
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> I was merely describing what perspective I come from as briefly as possible.

More briefly than possible, I’d say. You just can’t go around saying that a Christian must be an IDer or creationist (not sure which you intended).

> [@Michael Behe: Kafka at the Dover Trial](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/michael-behe-kafka-at-the-dover-trial/12294/16):
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> I just learned that Behe affirms common ancestry (at least to an extent).

Universal common ancestry, I believe. How he thinks ID works within that framework has never been clearly stated.

> [@Michael Behe: Kafka at the Dover Trial](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/michael-behe-kafka-at-the-dover-trial/12294/17):
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> Under that clearly canonical definition of exaptation, Michael Behe is _demonstrably incorrect_ to say there have been no examples of exaptation resulting in novel functions and structures in experimental biology.

Some lens crystallins in various taxa (birds among them) would be another example. Some of them also function (presumably their original functions) as enzymes elsewhere in the body.

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