# Daniel Deen and Joel Oesch: The Lutheran Voice and Crosswise Institute

**URL:** <https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/daniel-deen-and-joel-oesch-the-lutheran-voice-and-crosswise-institute/721>\
**Category:** Office Hours\
**Tags:** Adam, Theology\
**Created:** [July 20, 2018, 3:30am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/daniel-deen-and-joel-oesch-the-lutheran-voice-and-crosswise-institute/721 "2018-07-20T03:30:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![swamidass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/swamidass/32/3_2.png) [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 10:23pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/daniel-deen-and-joel-oesch-the-lutheran-voice-and-crosswise-institute/721/28 "2018-08-21T22:23:50Z")

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@Philosurfer can you also comment on this?

> [@The Real Story of the Hunt and Meyer Exchange](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-real-story-of-the-hunt-and-meyer-exchange/1230/2):
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> My strategy, and I’m sensing that @swamidass is also coming around to this, has always been to educate the next generation. Taking ID as an example, the battle lines and professional rigidity have been drawn. Can they be broken down, yes. PeacefulScience seems rather helpful in cultivating actual dialogue along these lines. However, the more powerful witness is the next generation of students who observe what is happening and carry it on in their professional work and their own students and so on and so on…

Two things.

1. What are you seeing happen in dialogue at Peaceful Science that gives hope? How can we do better?

2. What do you think your students are wanting to see as we map out a new way forward here?

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