# Darwin Devolves Itself Is Irreducibly Complex

**URL:** <https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/darwin-devolves-itself-is-irreducibly-complex/4831>\
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**Tags:** Design, Philosophy\
**Created:** [February 25, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/darwin-devolves-itself-is-irreducibly-complex/4831 "2019-02-25T20:09:08Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/darwin-devolves-itself-is-irreducibly-complex/4831/3 "2019-02-25T21:11:34Z")

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> [@Edgar\_Tamarian](#):
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> as far as i am following the debate, it is strange claim that Darwin devolves rests on Doug’s Axe’s Undeniable

Have you seen Behe’s response to this? [Constructive Neutral Evolution](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/constructive-neutral-evolution/4675). It relies heavily on Axe’s work, and some “common sense” but bad intuition about the math of combinatorial systems.

Because of Axe, Behe thinks it is nearly impossible for new proteins to arise. This becomes one of the many well understood processes he ignores.

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