# Darwinism Falsified in Science Long Ago?

**URL:** <https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/darwinism-falsified-in-science-long-ago/4325>\
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**Tags:** Science, Communication\
**Created:** [February 7, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/darwinism-falsified-in-science-long-ago/4325 "2019-02-07T16:30:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@Mung](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Mung)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/darwinism-falsified-in-science-long-ago/4325/2 "2019-02-07T16:16:04Z")

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> [@A New Deal for Intelligent Design?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/a-new-deal-for-intelligent-design/4300/26):
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> You’re right, of course, Joshua. That part of my mind (where ID and stuff resides) was mapped out between 25 and 15 years ago. At that time, I had the impression that neo-Darwinism was still the reigning paradigm.

When you wrote of Neo-Darwinism as a reigning paradigm, did you mean Neo-Darwinism as defined by the ID community or Neo-Darwinism as defined by the scientific community?

When @swamidass stated that Neo-Darwinism has been replaced and is not the reigning paradigm in biology he appears to me to mean Neo-Darwinism **as defined in ID.**

> [@A New Deal for Intelligent Design?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/a-new-deal-for-intelligent-design/4300/29):
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> As I understand, Darwinism (as defined in ID) was definitively falsified in 1968 with Kimura’s work, who solved a puzzle first uncovered by Haldane.

The more interesting question, in my mind at least and perhaps also in yours, is whether Neo-Darwinism **as defined by the scientists who defend it** (not as defined in ID), is still the reigning paradigm.

Philosopher of Biology Michael Ruse seems to think it still is:

> **[The Problem of War: Darwinism, Christianity, and their Battle to Understand...](https://www.amazon.com/Problem-War-Darwinism-Christianity-Understand/dp/0190867574?tag=swamidass-20)**
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> The Problem of War: Darwinism, Christianity, and their Battle to Understand Human Conflict \[Ruse, Michael\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. The Problem of War: Darwinism, Christianity, and their Battle to Understand Human Conflict

See also:

> **[Search Results - Yale University Press](https://yalebooks.yale.edu/search-results/?series=yle105-darwinism-today-series)**

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