# Darwinism Falsified in Science Long Ago?

**URL:** <https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/darwinism-falsified-in-science-long-ago/4325>\
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**Tags:** Science, Communication\
**Created:** [February 7, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/darwinism-falsified-in-science-long-ago/4325 "2019-02-07T16:30:01Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/darwinism-falsified-in-science-long-ago/4325/93 "2019-02-08T21:42:29Z")

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@T_aquaticus

> [@T\_aquaticus](#):
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> What does “Darwinism” mean?

People at DI have been pretty consistent about using neo-Darwinism, and it means random mutation and natural selection to them. That’s how Steve Meyer uses it consistently. I have tried to get people to add in genetic drift and recombination with limited success. I think epigenetics would now be included, but outside neo-Darwinism.

> [@T\_aquaticus](#):
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> I didn’t name you specifically, and I was talking about the larger movement.

It’s funny though. You were directly contradicting something I wrote, and I think my knowledge of what the “ID movement” means by Darwinism is more accurate than yours.

I am going to be prickly here. You don’t like us to use the term Darwinism or neo-Darwinism. You say it’s out dated. Fine. I have told you our reasons which are valid. Maybe we should use the names pre-Kimura and post-Kimura evolution. That will really make things clear.

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