# Dembski: Building a Better Definition of Intelligent Design

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**Created:** [July 17, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/dembski-building-a-better-definition-of-intelligent-design/16746 "2024-07-17T19:47:04Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/dembski-building-a-better-definition-of-intelligent-design/16746/214 "2024-08-26T18:59:30Z")

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> [@Dan\_Eastwood](#):
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> Where Dembski has  
> SC(E) = I(E) - K(D)  
> with nothing linking E and D, and no joint distribribution, except (possibly) they are independent.
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> BA y Arcas _et al_ (2024) has  
> Higher-Order-Entropy(E) = I(E) - K(E)  
> which might make sense. I need to give a paper a more careful read before can say more.

If _Higher-Order-Entropy_ were to be applied to real world objects, it would have the same problems defining probability as Dembski encounters with SC. It works for this study because it is applied to a well-defined population of objects. There is no arbitrary description of the objects, Kolmogorov Information of the objects are approximated using a standard text compression algorithm.

One more thing … I called it! 😉

> [@Assembly theory explains and quantifies selection and evolution](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/assembly-theory-explains-and-quantifies-selection-and-evolution/16345/5):
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> _Note: I’m pretty sure Dembski (2005) cited this same paper by Wallace. Dembski didn’t actually use MML, but it would be a wonderful irony if MML or something like it went on to be a key to explaining biological evolution._ 😉

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