# EvoBio, ID, and OEC. Where to go from here?

**URL:** <https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/evobio-id-and-oec-where-to-go-from-here/1900>\
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**Created:** [September 28, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/evobio-id-and-oec-where-to-go-from-here/1900 "2018-09-28T19:20:50Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 12:52am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/evobio-id-and-oec-where-to-go-from-here/1900/10 "2018-09-29T00:52:19Z")

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> [@T.j\_Runyon](#):
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> Yep. Intelligence is needed to produce a mutation or strings of mutations here, new gene there, etc.

Then your categories don’t include undetectable intelligent design (e.g.: [Would God's Guidance Be DNA-Detectable?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/would-gods-guidance-be-dna-detectable/1626)). This is far more viable than #2, and appears to be the view of a large number of people.

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