I want to let Biologos know that BioLogos Forum is being used to post incendiary hate speech against the 25% of Americans who are atheists, agnostics, or nothing-in-particular. We live in divisive times with mistrust of science, secular institutions, and the general non-religious public. The BioLogos Forum shouldn’t be used to post incendiary hate speech at the non-religious. Can someone at PS, help me in having this post and/or poster removed from the Biologos Forum and ask BioLogos to moderate their forum better to stop bashing of non-believers. We are just over a month from an insurrection by Christian Nationalists on the temple of our secular government - the US Capital. BioLogos shouldn’t tolerate such divisive speech on their forum, especially at this time when sensitivities run high.
Never listen to those who dont love God, there is no truth in them. They are lovers of self and sin and will only lead you into darkness. They have made themselves enemies of God and they despise Jesus who died to deliver us from sin. Jesus alone has the power to save you from sin and the wrath of God. There is no truth inn them, run from the counsel of the wicked, they are enemies of the cross of Christ. The counsel of the wicked is death but the word of Jesus is Everlasting Life.
It is often helpful, in deciding whether something constitutes hate speech, to imagine the same words being directed at another group that has frequently endured persecution, such as Jewish or Black people.
Biologos moderation is their perogative, but this particular poster seems to take it as his ministry to sermonize like a street preacher and dump as many Bible verses as possible, and has sent many topics off the rails. One of my replies to him went…
…by your posts I am reminded of this pithy piece by Piet Hein
As Pastor X steps out of bed
he slips a neat disguise on:
that halo round his priestly head
is really his horizon.
BioLogos professes to the ideals of grace and graciousness in discussion. By allowing speech that others find offensive should be reason enough to remove.
It’s relevant cause we have to apply the same standards to ourselves that we apply to others, and that example is a way to give some empathy to their trade offs.
You suppose that “ourselves” in my case includes some random atheists you have encountered on the net.
You suppose that the standard should be based on what some random atheists say, such that anything “not much worse” is not hate speech.
I’m going to reject both of those assumptions. I’m not claiming the random atheists as my people and I’m not using them as a standard for hate speech. (I can’t, of course, not even knowing what statements you’re thinking of.)
This atheist doesn’t consider it to be hate speech. Perhaps I am desensitized to being viewed in such a manner, but I feel much more pity for that person than I do fear of being discriminated against or harmed.
But can’t you also feel pity for a virulent antisemite or racist? They are, after all, in a pitiable state. How would that prevent you from interpreting his statements as hate speech?