# Intelligent Design nearly down the drain

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**Tags:** Design\
**Created:** [January 9, 2023, 7:16pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/intelligent-design-nearly-down-the-drain/15694 "2023-01-09T19:16:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Patrick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b2d939/32.png) [@Patrick](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Patrick)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 7:16pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/intelligent-design-nearly-down-the-drain/15694/1 "2023-01-09T19:16:27Z")

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> **[Intelligent Design nearly down the drain](https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2023/01/08/intelligent-design-nearly-down-the-drain/)**
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> The Wedge Document, the manifesto written by the Discovery Institute (DI) to outline the future proliferation of Intelligent Design (ID), was composed in 1998. It was leaked a long time ago, and yo…

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**Author:** ![Puck\_Mendelssohn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/puck_mendelssohn/32/11849_2.png) [@Puck\_Mendelssohn](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Puck_Mendelssohn)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 1:39am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/intelligent-design-nearly-down-the-drain/15694/2 "2023-01-10T01:39:45Z")

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I like the comment by Ken Pidcock:

> If you understand ID as a plan to grift conservative Christians, they haven’t actually done too badly.

And that’s it, I think. It is hard to believe that it ever really was intended to be more, at least by its principal proponents.

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**Author:** ![Boris\_Badenoff](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/boris_badenoff/32/11659_2.png) [@Boris\_Badenoff](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Boris_Badenoff)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 3:50am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/intelligent-design-nearly-down-the-drain/15694/3 "2023-01-13T03:50:05Z")

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A reminder that ID is just an acceptable version of creationism for those people embarrassed to be associated with the yokels going to the Ken Ham Creation Museum in Tennessee.

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Eastwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/dan_eastwood/32/2368_2.png) [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 3:53am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/intelligent-design-nearly-down-the-drain/15694/4 "2023-01-13T03:53:33Z")

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> [@Boris\_Badenoff](#):
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> Ken Ham Creation Museum in ~~Tennessee~~ Kentucky.

My Kentucky heritage compels me to both correct the error and hide my face in shame.

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**Author:** ![Puck\_Mendelssohn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/puck_mendelssohn/32/11849_2.png) [@Puck\_Mendelssohn](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Puck_Mendelssohn)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 3:54am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/intelligent-design-nearly-down-the-drain/15694/5 "2023-01-13T03:54:13Z")

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> [@Boris\_Badenoff](#):
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> A reminder that ID is just an acceptable version of creationism for those people embarrassed to be associated with the yokels going to the Ken Ham Creation Museum in Tennessee.

I think, in fact, most ID Creationists are perfectly happy to be associated with those yokels. It’s a big revival tent.

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**Author:** ![Puck\_Mendelssohn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/puck_mendelssohn/32/11849_2.png) [@Puck\_Mendelssohn](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Puck_Mendelssohn)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/intelligent-design-nearly-down-the-drain/15694/6 "2023-01-13T15:04:23Z")

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Ah, I thought about going to the “museum” once. I occasionally fly in to Cincinnati for business, and it’s not so far from there. And I understand there’s some decent fossil-hunting to be had in the area, too. I knew an engineer once who had taken his whole family there. I said I probably wouldn’t go, just because of the strange spectacle, and he mis-heard me as saying I wouldn’t go because it was probably too technical (which he then assured me it was not). But he was retiring, I didn’t need an argument or a discussion on this point at all, so I let it drop there…

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**Author:** ![Art](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/art/32/3805_2.png) [@Art](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Art)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/intelligent-design-nearly-down-the-drain/15694/7 "2023-01-13T16:20:22Z")

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> [@Puck\_Mendelssohn](#):
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> Ah, I thought about going to the “museum” once. I occasionally fly in to Cincinnati for business, and it’s not so far from there.

[Very prestigious dignitaries have visited.](https://pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/06/adam-and-steve)

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/2X/6/6b7bf72453a5c60b0919b6b89a27dc18bc52382c.png) [@system](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/intelligent-design-nearly-down-the-drain/15694/9 "2023-01-21T16:00:39Z")

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