# Is ID Anti-Evolution? Yes and No

**URL:** <https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/is-id-anti-evolution-yes-and-no/3135>\
**Category:** Conversation\
**Tags:** Communication, Reference\
**Created:** [November 23, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/is-id-anti-evolution-yes-and-no/3135 "2018-11-23T02:51:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![swamidass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/swamidass/32/3_2.png) [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/is-id-anti-evolution-yes-and-no/3135/3 "2018-11-23T02:51:00Z")

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**(That last post was 230 words, not 200. Make them short and sweet.)**

> [@The Most Important Things From Eddie](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-most-important-things-from-eddie/3132/5):
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> I agree with you entirely that ID is frequently intertwined with anti-evolution sentiment. That is not going to change in the short term, but it might in the long term. I’ve tried to speed up the distancing of ID as such from anti-evolutionism by stressing that even in its formal statements ID does not rule out common descent.

If you just quote this everywhere, and point to this thread (when it is split) every time is necessary, you are going to save everyone a lot of time.

Notice, this is distinct from what you original said:

> [@The Most Important Things From Eddie](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-most-important-things-from-eddie/3132/2):
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> - the charge that ID _per se_ is anti-evolutionary is false.

Actually, the answer is “yes” and “no.” In some ways it is, and in other ways it isn’t. It is complicated. Point them to this thread to make your case. Do not overstate you case, or you lose. Do not give verbose replies, or you lose again. How do you know you won? When others make your case for you.

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