# James Tour and his 60-day challenge

**URL:** <https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/james-tour-and-his-60-day-challenge/17564>\
**Category:** Side Conversation\
**Tags:** Science\
**Created:** [December 17, 2025, 12:01am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/james-tour-and-his-60-day-challenge/17564 "2025-12-17T00:01:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![lee\_merrill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/lee_merrill/32/14458_2.png) [@lee\_merrill](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/lee_merrill)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2026, 6:42pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/james-tour-and-his-60-day-challenge/17564/276 "2026-01-25T18:42:45Z")

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> [@Faizal\_Ali](#):
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> > [@lee\_merrill](#):
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> > But you admitted that Axe responded to Hunt!
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> Axe has never responded to the article Art wrote in 2018 at all, never even acknowledged its existence. And, no, he did not adequately address the main concerns Art had raised from the outset, not to this day.

I agree that Axe did not respond to Hunt’s 2018 article, do I have to keep saying this? And I said I tried to address what Hunt called his main concerns, here, and I did not see a good defense, and Hunt withdrew.

> [@Faizal\_Ali](#):
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> > [@lee\_merrill](#):
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> > I pointed out to Hunt, that Axe did address what Hunt said, I went through each point Axe made, demonstrating their relevance. Hunt did not address what I was saying.
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> Right. And then you flew off on your pink unicorn to slay dragons.

I think you are the one making wild claims, though, can you point to posts, specifically?

> [@Faizal\_Ali](#):
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> So let me get this straight. It is “not unreasonable” to expect busy researchers to put their lives on hold and respond to some fabricated “challenge” concocted by some ignorant, fanatical crackpot which does not even pertain to the present state of OoL research, within a completely arbirary 60 day deadline.
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> But for Doug Axe to ignore **for seven years and counting** criticisms addressed directly to him by an expert in the relevant field and which raises severe, specific and legitimate concerns regarding Axe’s methodology? Oh, totally fine and reasonable according to you.

You keep making this complaint, without addressing what I say in response. My response being that the OOL researchers (specifically those who were challenged) should do as you all have done, and point to the papers where the challenges have been met. Surely the researchers are abreast of the field, and the would not need to put their lives on hold, or their work, to do this.

And no one has to respond to every article written criticizing their work, especially if (as you admit) Axe did respond to Hunt and his initial blog post on Panda’s Thumb. And especially if Axe’s methodology was deemed acceptable by the reviewers, it would seem unlikely that it had “severe, specific and legitimate concerns”. And even more, if you all haven’t been able to show and defend such concerns in this thread. I keep challenging people here to point me to one purported problem that has gone unaddressed, for which the ID people here have had no good answer.

> [@Faizal\_Ali](#):
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> > [@lee\_merrill](#):
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> > Tour keeps pointing out problems with their claims, and in their papers. And no one has addressed his challenges, no researcher, and no one here.
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> Are you for real?

I am. You even admit no researcher has responded, and I again point out that no researcher has stated that one or more of Tour’s challenges are invalid.

> [@Faizal\_Ali](#):
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> Then what is this, then? Show me where you, Axe or anyone else has shown how the concerns raised by Art Hunt are not valid. Go ahead.
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> [Art Hunt to Doug Axe: Invitation to Discuss](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/art-hunt-to-doug-axe-invitation-to-discuss/1660)

Did you miss this, in the thread you referenced?

> [@Art Hunt to Doug Axe: Invitation to Discuss](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/art-hunt-to-doug-axe-invitation-to-discuss/1660/9):
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> There were a few anonymouse posts at ENV in the aftermath of Darwin Devolves. Where are the threads where we picked those up?

And I [did discuss](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/did-douglas-axe-disprove-evolution-spoiler-no/17458/176) Hunt’s 2018 post with him in this thread, actually. And Hunt left off replying, as far as I can tell.

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