# Jesus is Like (But Not Like) Others

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**Created:** [June 30, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/jesus-is-like-but-not-like-others/6863 "2019-06-30T20:55:14Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 10:46am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/jesus-is-like-but-not-like-others/6863/15 "2019-07-02T10:46:51Z")

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> [@Are the Gospels Reliable?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/are-the-gospels-reliable/6781/148):
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> It’s not that we’re claiming there is a consensus among historians that Jesus was resurrected from the dead.

Whereas that is what I _am_ claiming. So if you are not denying my claim is true, what is there left to discuss?

> [@Are the Gospels Reliable?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/are-the-gospels-reliable/6781/148):
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> Still, there’s a difference between that and thinking that the Gospels are completely untrustworthy in anything they say.

That is not my claim.

> [@Are the Gospels Reliable?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/are-the-gospels-reliable/6781/148):
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> - Jesus died via crucifixion.
> - Jesus was buried in a tomb which was found empty later.
> - The disciples experienced multiple post-mortem appearances of Jesus.
> - The belief in Jesus’ resurrection was established early in the Church and became the basis for spreading the new faith.

These are not established facts by consensus of scholars. Even a source as biased in favour of the resurrection as Gary Habermas accepts this. He only lists #1 and #4 above as among his “minimal facts.” (If you read carefully, you will note that he does not endorse #3, though he might seem to on superficial reading.)

> **[Minimal Facts on the Resurrection that Even Skeptics Accept](https://ses.edu/minimal-facts-on-the-resurrection-that-even-skeptics-accept/)**
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> Gary Habermas' minimal facts on the Resurrection of Jesus Christ are ones that even skeptics accept. This is something Gary Habermas specializes in and continues to assert in his apologetic approach to the resurrection.

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