# Ken Miller: A Textbook Biologist at the Dover Trial

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**Category:** Peaceful Science\
**Tags:** Science, Design, Society\
**Created:** [November 10, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/ken-miller-a-textbook-biologist-at-the-dover-trial/12410 "2020-11-10T19:54:30Z")\
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> [@thoughtful](#):
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> Yes, but he’s saying the mousetrap didn’t move its parts on its own.

No one said a mousetrap had to move its parts on its own. That’s not germane to the topic. Do you understand a mousetrap is NOT irreducibly complex since parts can be removed and the remainder still retain a different function?

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