# Miller, Ayala, and Theistic Evolution

**URL:** https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/miller-ayala-and-theistic-evolution/4328
**Category:** Side Conversation
**Tags:** Science
**Created:** [February 7, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/miller-ayala-and-theistic-evolution/4328 "2019-02-07T16:39:04Z")
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#### Post date: [February 7, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/miller-ayala-and-theistic-evolution/4328/2 "2019-02-07T16:42:01Z")

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> [@A New Deal for Intelligent Design?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/a-new-deal-for-intelligent-design/4300/71):
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> Don’t forget Kenneth Miller. He is a Christian and he literally wrote the biological textbook.

Yes. This is somewhat of a side issue, but Miller is less trusted amoung many religious communities. He is a reason that TE is associated with Deism. The same is true of Ayala. Some people wonder if they are actually orthodox Christians, and neither have publicly clarified. For that reason I leave Miller and Ayala off these lists. Ayala, as I understand it, eventually came out as an atheist too.

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