# Objective Direct and Indirect Evidence, and Subjective Inferences

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**Created:** [May 18, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/objective-direct-and-indirect-evidence-and-subjective-inferences/6260 "2019-05-18T21:17:21Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/objective-direct-and-indirect-evidence-and-subjective-inferences/6260/73 "2019-06-05T21:46:28Z")

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> [@T\_aquaticus](#):
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> Photons are a quantum particle, and your eye does a pretty good job of verifying their existence. There are plenty of light detectors used in science.
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> ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/2X/4/4eb10e27bccf5dc14a35f638a7ce4fafe27fb5ca.png) Jim:

Well I had in mind elementary particles. But would that be considered empirically verified? You don’t actually see it, just it’s effects.

> [@T\_aquaticus](#):
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> Would you say that empirical measurement is an example of independent verification?

Seems like it would be, yes.

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