# Peaceful Science Covered in Wired Magazine

**URL:** https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996
**Category:** Public Square
**Created:** [October 3, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996 "2018-10-03T14:52:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 19
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### Author: ![Dan\_Eastwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/dan_eastwood/32/2368_2.png) [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/21 "2018-10-03T22:10:25Z")

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Dangit! You figure me out! ![](https://cdck-file-uploads-us1.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/2X/1/1712113cf25825282fe2801d615115e05a6da47b.gif)

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### Author: ![Dan\_Eastwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/dan_eastwood/32/2368_2.png) [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/22 "2018-10-03T22:12:33Z")

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Hey @Patrick, go make a comment so we can argue about it. That’s always a good way to draw attention! 🙂

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### Author: ![Djordje](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/djordje/32/3673_2.png) [@Djordje](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Djordje)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/23 "2018-10-03T22:20:57Z")

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> [@Dan\_Eastwood](#):
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> Hey @Patrick, go make a comment so we can argue about it. That’s always a good way to draw attention! 🙂

And the comment section had such potential to be the only of it’s kind (civil). Well all good things end far too quickly.

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### Author: ![swamidass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/swamidass/32/3_2.png) [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/24 "2018-10-03T22:42:44Z")

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At this time, I am going to invite Dr. David Menton from AIG to participate in discussing this article with us. This invitation is most likely to be ignored. If, however, he does join us here, the rules will immediately change on this thread. It will become tightly regulated and no disrespect or unkindness directed at Dr. Menton will be tolerated at all. Period.

At _ **Peaceful Science** _ we aim for honest exchanges, where positions can be understood and honestly criticized. This is not possible in hostile contexts where personal attacks are allowed. I expect everyone will work hard to serve these goals.

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### Author: ![Jordan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/jordan/32/756_2.png) [@Jordan](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Jordan)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/25 "2018-10-04T00:15:34Z")

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Hey @Rogero, nice to see you here!

> [@Rogero](#):
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> [http://www.scienceforseminaries.org/](http://www.scienceforseminaries.org/)
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> If you’re connected to a seminary in any way, please make them aware of this opportunity.

Well, I went to look only to find that the seminary affiliated with the same denomination as the university I teach at ( and is less than 20 miles away) is already on the list. Are there ways that scientists can be of help?

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### Author: ![Patrick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b2d939/32.png) [@Patrick](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Patrick)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/26 "2018-10-04T00:22:47Z")

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> [@Dan\_Eastwood](#):
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> Hey @Patrick, go make a comment so we can argue about it. That’s always a good way to draw attention! 🙂

Ok, How’s this: Are agnostics really just 99.99% atheist who are afraid to come out as atheists? Are agnostics really agnostic about Zeus, Apollo and Thor?

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### Author: ![Rogero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Rogero](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Rogero)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/27 "2018-10-04T00:42:58Z")

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Hey, @Jordan, great to see you, too!

> Well, I went to look only to find that the seminary affiliated with the same denomination as the university I teach at ( and is less than 20 miles away) is already on the list. Are there ways that scientists can be of help?

ABSOLUTELY! That’s how @swamidass became part of the effort. Message me details of the seminary and your information and I’ll send that to the DoSER team at AAAS. There may be a need for your help.

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### Author: ![Dan\_Eastwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/dan_eastwood/32/2368_2.png) [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2018, 4:35am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/28 "2018-10-04T04:35:15Z")

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> [@Patrick](#):
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> Ok, How’s this: Are agnostics really just 99.99% atheist who are afraid to come out as atheists?

That’s right! Wishy-washy fence-sitters afraid to jump in with both feet! 😄

And hey, did you hear about the big agnostics protest rally? They marched down the street with signs reading, “We Don’t Know!” 😆

And there was some argument about agnosticism being more intellectually honest than atheism, but I forgot how it goes … Label me Agnostic-Apathist!

Better yet. Look up PZ Myers essay on Dictionary Atheism. That’s what really put it perspective for me.

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### Author: ![gbrooks9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/gbrooks9/32/7979_2.png) [@gbrooks9](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/gbrooks9)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2018, 11:28am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/29 "2018-10-04T11:28:40Z")

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> [@Patrick](#):
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> Are agnostics really agnostic about Zeus, Apollo and Thor?

Hmmmmmmmm

Now that is interesting…

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### Author: ![gbrooks9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/gbrooks9/32/7979_2.png) [@gbrooks9](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/gbrooks9)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2018, 12:27pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/30 "2018-10-04T12:27:07Z")

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> [@swamidass](#):
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> Please leave a comment on the Wired article. These things are tracked, and can increase coverage of these topics in the future.

Took a while to figure out how to get signed up for comments… but it was worth the effort!

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### Author: ![nwrickert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/nwrickert/32/810_2.png) [@nwrickert](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/nwrickert)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/31 "2018-10-04T13:48:01Z")

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> [@Patrick](#):
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> Are agnostics really just 99.99% atheist who are afraid to come out as atheists?

I’m not afraid of that. I’ve been called “atheist” and I expect that will happen again.

It’s just that people tend to associate “atheist” with the Richard Dawkins (“The God Delusion”) style of atheism, and that’s not me. So “agnostic” better communicates who I am.

> [@Patrick](#):
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> Are agnostics really agnostic about Zeus, Apollo and Thor?

I’m agnostic about the broad idea of a God. But once you get into specifics …

Actually, “apatheist” is a better term, but it does not have wide currency in the population at large.

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### Author: ![Dan\_Eastwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/dan_eastwood/32/2368_2.png) [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/32 "2018-10-04T15:02:13Z")

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I’m too lazy to change my title to Apathist.

_Ignostics_ have more fun!

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### Author: ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/2X/6/6b7bf72453a5c60b0919b6b89a27dc18bc52382c.png) [@system](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/33 "2018-10-17T19:27:47Z")

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#### Post date: [November 3, 2018, 10:28pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/34 "2018-11-03T22:28:39Z")

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#### Post date: [November 21, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/35 "2018-11-21T00:26:15Z")

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#### Post date: [December 10, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/36 "2018-12-10T02:58:03Z")

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### Author: ![Dan\_Eastwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/dan_eastwood/32/2368_2.png) [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)
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### Author: ![Dan\_Eastwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/dan_eastwood/32/2368_2.png) [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)
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### Author: ![Dan\_Eastwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/dan_eastwood/32/2368_2.png) [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2018, 4:05am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/peaceful-science-covered-in-wired-magazine/1996/39 "2018-12-13T04:05:09Z")

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