# Perry Marshall: What is Random?

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**Created:** [August 30, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/perry-marshall-what-is-random/1419 "2018-08-30T22:20:21Z")\
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> [@EricMH](#):
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> > I will explain what randomness is within science, math, and probability.
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> Then why not use the mathematical definition of randomness, instead of random variable, when talking about randomness?

Both wikipedia pages are saying the same thing. One wikipedia page was clearer than the other, but both are making the same point if you read them completely. Without doubt, randomness in mathematics always has  
“patterns” of one sort another. There is no way around this fact.

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