# Politics megathread

**URL:** https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175
**Category:** Side Conversation
**Tags:** Society
**Created:** [March 26, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175 "2025-03-26T00:38:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 24

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### Author: ![Faizal\_Ali](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/faizal_ali/32/12416_2.png) [@Faizal\_Ali](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Faizal_Ali)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2026, 9:35pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/489 "2026-01-24T21:35:29Z")

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Can’t wait to hear the story about how those ICE agents got internal bleeding from the deceased ramming their fists and boots with his body.

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### Author: ![Rumraket](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/rumraket/32/9328_2.png) [@Rumraket](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Rumraket)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2026, 9:52pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/490 "2026-01-24T21:52:03Z")

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Ahh yes of course, the ole attacking their fists with your face. Don’t forget they probably also got peperspray on their hands when they tried to mace him out of helping up that woman who fell in the snow.

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### Author: ![Tim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/tim/32/9381_2.png) [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2026, 2:31am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/491 "2026-01-25T02:31:05Z")

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Could somebody please tell me how this ICE behaviour differs from that of Hitler’s [SA ‘Brownshirts’](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung) – an ill-disciplined paramilitary militia, engaging in street-violence and intimidation against it’s leader’s ideological enemies?

But please, _please_, _ **please** _, don’t call them “fascists” or “Nazis”. \</s\>

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### Author: ![Puck\_Mendelssohn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/puck_mendelssohn/32/11849_2.png) [@Puck\_Mendelssohn](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Puck_Mendelssohn)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2026, 5:03am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/492 "2026-01-25T05:03:03Z")

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Only difference I can see is that the Brownshirts were not paid for with the taxes collected from the people they terrorized and murdered. They were sort of “volunteer ICE.”

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### Author: ![Faizal\_Ali](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/faizal_ali/32/12416_2.png) [@Faizal\_Ali](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Faizal_Ali)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2026, 4:49pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/493 "2026-01-26T16:49:06Z")

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Does this guy even, himself, believe the lies his mouth is spewing? And, seriously, is DHS hiring based on how much someone looks like the evil SS officer in a B-movie?

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/3X/8/f/8fda7b2202ac6ecc3b59cca4353a6d853671f92d.jpeg "Bash presses Bovino on Alex Pretti killing: 'What evidence do you have?'") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elghl2eIT6U)

I am also reminded of something that happened here in Toronto 7 years ago, showing how properly trained law enforcement officers handle a person who actually _is_ a domestic terrorist.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/3X/0/9/0996365e1f2234994d3dce473404d3072bfb89bd.jpeg "Ken Lam: The cop who arrested Alek Minassian peacefully") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgBp-wclLzw)

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### Author: ![Rumraket](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/rumraket/32/9328_2.png) [@Rumraket](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Rumraket)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2026, 5:22pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/494 "2026-01-26T17:22:57Z")

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> [@Faizal\_Ali](#):
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> And, seriously, is DHS hiring based on how much someone looks like the evil SS officer in a B-movie?

A [german newspaper commented](https://www.sueddeutsche.de/kultur/ice-border-patrol-gregory-bovino-kristi-noem-trump-einwanderung-outfit-li.3371128) that he looks like he took an image of Ernst Röhm to his hair stylist. I’m sure he’s been trying the Hitler stache in front of the mirror before he shaves it off and is longing for the day when he feels like he doesn’t have to.

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### Author: ![Tim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/tim/32/9381_2.png) [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2026, 11:14am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/495 "2026-01-27T11:14:28Z")

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> [@Rumraket](#):
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> A [german newspaper commented](https://www.sueddeutsche.de/kultur/ice-border-patrol-gregory-bovino-kristi-noem-trump-einwanderung-outfit-li.3371128) that he looks like he took an image of Ernst Röhm to his hair stylist.

Well he certainly seems to have the uniform down pat:

 ![Untitled](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/3X/4/2/42a5a76c0271f8ff697cd8e6954f86c5c3076f43.jpeg)

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### Author: ![Faizal\_Ali](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/faizal_ali/32/12416_2.png) [@Faizal\_Ali](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Faizal_Ali)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2026, 3:32pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/496 "2026-01-27T15:32:41Z")

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Moderna will be curbing vaccine research because the USA is a dystopian shithole.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/3X/2/c/2c7b2ad5a87f5560f089ea9b8c5189fa506da684.jpeg "Moderna is curbing investment in vaccine trials due to US backlash") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b73mDuoEMps)

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### Author: ![Faizal\_Ali](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/faizal_ali/32/12416_2.png) [@Faizal\_Ali](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Faizal_Ali)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2026, 3:40pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/497 "2026-01-27T15:40:17Z")

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This is cute:

> A Colorado nonprofit that helps immigrants in mountain towns says that after several men were detained by ICE during “fake traffic stops” this week in Eagle County, ominous ace of spades cards were left behind in their empty vehicles.
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> Family and friends who went to retrieve the vehicles, left abandoned on Highway 6, found the cards, which were printed with contact information for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center in Aurora.
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> Ace of spades cards, which have been used by white supremacist groups as a racist symbol and were called [“death cards”](https://www.historynet.com/ace-spades-vietnam-psychological-warfare/?utm_source=chatgpt.com) by some during the Vietnam War, were found in at least two vehicles after those vehicles were pulled over by ICE agents, according to Voces Unidas, a nonprofit based in Glenwood Springs.
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> Nine people were taken into ICE custody during the targeted action Wednesday, including eight people taken after four traffic stops and one person who was walking to a bus stop in Avon, said Alex Sánchez, president and CEO of Voces Unidas.
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> The U.S. Department of Homeland Security said via email Friday that ICE is investigating the situation and “unequivocally condemns this type of action and/or officer conduct.”

> **[Racist ace of spades cards left behind following ICE arrests in Eagle County,...](https://coloradosun.com/2026/01/23/ace-of-spades-card-ice-detentions/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email)**
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> ICE said it began an investigation into the allegations and that it "unequivocally condemns" any such actions

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### Author: ![Rumraket](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/rumraket/32/9328_2.png) [@Rumraket](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Rumraket)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2026, 4:01pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/498 "2026-01-27T16:01:55Z")

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> “Once notified, ICE supervisors acted swiftly to address the issue,” Homeland Security officials wrote. “The ICE Office of Professional Responsibility will conduct a thorough investigation and will take appropriate and swift action.”

Oh right, sure I’ll sleep _much_ better now that ICE is investigating itself.

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### Author: ![AllenWitmerMiller](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/allenwitmermiller/32/2519_2.png) [@AllenWitmerMiller](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/AllenWitmerMiller)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2026, 9:13pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/499 "2026-01-28T21:13:36Z")

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Considering that Homeland Security is advertising for ICE agents in White Supremacist hangouts online, it’s not surprising that White Supremacists would assume they have full government endorsement (and total immunity from legal consequences) while being paid to carry out their ideologies.

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### Author: ![Faizal\_Ali](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/faizal_ali/32/12416_2.png) [@Faizal\_Ali](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Faizal_Ali)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2026, 9:18pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/500 "2026-01-28T21:18:39Z")

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Another reason it would not be surprising if they assumed that: It is actually the case.

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### Author: ![Faizal\_Ali](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/faizal_ali/32/12416_2.png) [@Faizal\_Ali](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Faizal_Ali)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2026, 10:27pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/501 "2026-01-28T22:27:57Z")

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There are still heroes in America. Like this guy:

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/3X/2/a/2a1a055a38391c5f36071812d34e65632207d35b.jpeg "Rideshare driver details 'absurd' confrontation with Border Patrol chief Bovino") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec5f5477MHA)

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### Author: ![Rumraket](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/rumraket/32/9328_2.png) [@Rumraket](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Rumraket)
#### Post date: [February 1, 2026, 10:15am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/502 "2026-02-01T10:15:36Z")

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The president of the US:

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/3X/8/8/881cf80f92caeaff7f36b5038e3be433f94fc87c.jpeg "Trump Does Not Take Reporters' Questions After Signing Executive Order In The Oval Office") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_6kGluvINg)

Listen to the very audible sound at exactly 0:34 (and 0:44, and _really_ bad 0:47) and then watch everyone very closely. Think about what might have just occurred to have the press conference so abruptly called off.

That is all.

_“Thank you for your attention to this matter”_ - DJT

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### Author: ![Rumraket](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/rumraket/32/9328_2.png) [@Rumraket](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Rumraket)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2026, 2:07pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/503 "2026-02-03T14:07:02Z")

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Moving on from Diaper Donnie we get this excellent status update on US steel production increases straight from the white house:

 ![Skærmbillede 2026-02-03 150512](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/3X/d/6/d6eb3ada32d9d5cb92acc502cb1c2ad540684c46.jpeg)

That looks like a lot until you notice the Y axis.

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### Author: ![Tim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/tim/32/9381_2.png) [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2026, 2:11pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/504 "2026-02-03T14:11:59Z")

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> There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics

😛

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### Author: ![Faizal\_Ali](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/faizal_ali/32/12416_2.png) [@Faizal\_Ali](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Faizal_Ali)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2026, 2:19pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/505 "2026-02-03T14:19:26Z")

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The Democrats do have some youngsters on the bench who seem to have the right political instincts. Hopefully they get let into the game.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/3X/6/e/6ea9e1122e2857c026b4bf0d4e32c39d0ddfe9cc.jpeg "This Was Going To Come Out Eventually....... | Kat Abughazaleh For Illinois") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yXsd87Zgb4)

OTOH, that assumes America will continue to have elections.

> **[Trump says federal government should 'take over' state elections](https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2026-02-02/trump-says-federal-government-should-take-over-state-elections)**
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> Trump repeated without evidence his long-running claim that U.S. elections are beset by widespread fraud.

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### Author: ![Rumraket](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/rumraket/32/9328_2.png) [@Rumraket](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Rumraket)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2026, 2:24pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/506 "2026-02-03T14:24:46Z")

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> [@Faizal\_Ali](#):
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> (…) America will continue to have elections.

 ![okkiddo](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/3X/c/8/c848f6fd3879ecffa4ef72b5fbcbf49dd447a6f4.jpeg)

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### Author: ![AllenWitmerMiller](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/allenwitmermiller/32/2519_2.png) [@AllenWitmerMiller](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/AllenWitmerMiller)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2026, 7:28pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/507 "2026-02-03T19:28:14Z")

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I got to thinking: If you want to convince Trump to threaten an invasion of Freedonia, tell him it is a Marxist country.

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### Author: ![RonSewell](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/ronsewell/32/6194_2.png) [@RonSewell](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/RonSewell)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2026, 7:36pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/politics-megathread/17175/508 "2026-02-03T19:36:19Z")

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I would just tell him it has minerals.

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