# Reviewing Adam and the Genome

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**Category:** Peaceful Science\
**Created:** [December 23, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/reviewing-adam-and-the-genome/12854 "2020-12-23T19:54:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![dga471](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/dga471/32/5233_2.png) [@dga471](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/dga471)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 4:24am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/reviewing-adam-and-the-genome/12854/21 "2020-12-24T04:24:32Z")

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For me, it’s very fascinating and fun to understand how science and religion fit together. Being able to be part of a philosophical tradition that is 2000 years old while seeing how it can cohere with the findings of modern science is really cool.

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**Author:** ![thoughtful](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/thoughtful/32/9230_2.png) [@thoughtful](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/thoughtful)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 6:27am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/reviewing-adam-and-the-genome/12854/22 "2020-12-24T06:27:18Z")

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I have disagreements with some of what you presented. But I still can say: Of the few presentations of yours I’ve watched, this one is your best - substantive and thought-provoking.

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**Author:** ![Roels\_Major](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/roels_major/32/9083_2.png) [@Roels\_Major](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Roels_Major)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:57am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/reviewing-adam-and-the-genome/12854/23 "2020-12-24T07:57:22Z")

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> [@swamidass](#):
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> Well I trust scripture, and it seems that it teaches AE are real, and there isn’t any scientific evidence against that teaching. Beyond that, I’m pretty much an agnostic on the details.

Hello Professor. May peace and safety be upon you. When you say trust in scripture, is it also trust in scriptures from all religions that contain information about Adam and Eve? Or only specifically on Christian scriptures?

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**Author:** ![Roels\_Major](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/roels_major/32/9083_2.png) [@Roels\_Major](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Roels_Major)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 8:54am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/reviewing-adam-and-the-genome/12854/24 "2020-12-24T08:54:57Z")

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> [@dga471](#):
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> For me, it’s very fascinating and fun to understand how science and religion fit together. Being able to be part of a philosophical tradition that is 2000 years old while seeing how it can cohere with the findings of modern science is really cool.

Agree! Science is also rooted in philosophy. 😁 At least for me that’s how it started until thinkers found method and established some consensus, probability in mathematical model for an observation.

> In _Decisive Treatise_ , Averroes argues that philosophy—which for him represented conclusions reached using reason and careful method—cannot contradict revelations in Islam because they are just two different methods of reaching the truth, and “truth cannot contradict truth”.[[44]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Averroes#cite_note-FOOTNOTEGuessoum2011xx-44)[[45]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Averroes#cite_note-FOOTNOTEAdamson2016184-45) When conclusions reached by philosophy appear to contradict the text of the revelation, then according to Averroes, revelation must be subjected to interpretation or allegorical understanding to remove the contradiction.[[44]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Averroes#cite_note-FOOTNOTEGuessoum2011xx-44)[[41]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Averroes#cite_note-FOOTNOTEHillierPhilosophy_and_Religion-41) This interpretation must be done by those “rooted in knowledge”—a phrase taken from the Quran, 3:7, which for Averroes refers to philosophers who during his lifetime had access to the “highest methods of knowledge”.[[44]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Averroes#cite_note-FOOTNOTEGuessoum2011xx-44)[[45]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Averroes#cite_note-FOOTNOTEAdamson2016184-45) He also argues that the Quran calls for Muslims to study philosophy because the study and reflection of nature would increase a person’s knowledge of “the Artisan” (God).[[46]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Averroes#cite_note-FOOTNOTEGuessoum2011xxii-46) He quotes Quranic passages calling on Muslims to reflect on nature and uses them to render a _fatwa_ (legal opinion) that philosophy is allowed for Muslims and is probably an obligation, at least among those who have the talent for it.[[47]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Averroes#cite_note-FOOTNOTEAdamson2016182-47)

> **[Averroes](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Averroes)**
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> Ibn Rushd (Arabic: ابن رشد; full name in Arabic: أبو الوليد محمد ابن احمد ابن رشد, romanized: Abū l-Walīd Muḥammad Ibn ʾAḥmad Ibn Rušd; 14 April 1126 – 11 December 1198), often Latinized as Averroes (English: /əˈvɛroʊiːz/), was an Arab Andalusian polymath and jurist who wrote about many subjects, including philosophy, theology, medicine, astronomy, physics, psychology, mathematics, Islamic jurisprudence and law, and linguistics. The author of more than 100 books and treatises, his philos Averr...

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**Author:** ![John\_Harshman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/john_harshman/32/1121_2.png) [@John\_Harshman](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/John_Harshman)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 1:58pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/reviewing-adam-and-the-genome/12854/25 "2020-12-24T13:58:08Z")

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“Cohere” is perhaps too strong a word; it’s more like “stay out of the way”. Coherence, to me, would seem to imply support, when all we have is a lack of conflict due to our inability to devise any sort of test.

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 1:58pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/reviewing-adam-and-the-genome/12854/26 "2020-12-31T13:58:09Z")

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