# Rumraket Asks About Original Sin

**URL:** https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/rumraket-asks-about-original-sin/10545
**Category:** Conversation
**Tags:** Theology
**Created:** [April 27, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/rumraket-asks-about-original-sin/10545 "2020-04-27T17:38:03Z")
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### Author: ![Rumraket](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/rumraket/32/9328_2.png) [@Rumraket](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Rumraket)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/rumraket-asks-about-original-sin/10545/11 "2020-04-27T21:32:31Z")

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> [@Is the GAE model for transmission of Original Sin inherently unjust?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/is-the-gae-model-for-transmission-of-original-sin-inherently-unjust/10534/7):
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> The talk of unfairness by dragging “those outside the garden” into Adam’s sin seems a bit of a logical fallacy - the children of such unions are no more “those outside the garden” than I am still “non-Irish” because of my English ancestors, despite my Irish ones. To claim otherwise appears to me to play into that false racist narrative that the children of a mixed-race marriage are still “black,” as if they were not equally descended from their white parent.

I’m sorry but this does not make any sense.

To talk about “those outside the garden” is to talk about people who are located somewhere when some event took place. It’s in the very label. They are defined by their location in space and time, not their genealogical line of descent. Presumably the distinction is important _because_ they are not those who _were_ in the garden and doing the sinning.

Hence those that were in the garden and sinning, would be unjustly transmitting _their_ sins(assuming this is how it works) to those outside the garden, when they ventured out and had children with them. Those children would _still_ be outside the garden, **not** having actually participated in perpetrating the original sins. Thus to say they now share in the blame, or guilt, or responsibility for, or what you might call it, of having sinned, is to my eyes completely unjust. What is it they, the people outside the garden, _actually did_ that now makes them sinners?

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