# Scholars Over and Under 45

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**Created:** [February 2, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/scholars-over-and-under-45/4230 "2019-02-02T01:00:03Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 2:24am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/scholars-over-and-under-45/4230/27 "2019-02-02T02:24:40Z")

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> [@What was the New Atheism?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/what-was-the-new-atheism/4032/14):
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> > And me. I was never on a par with those big names, but I was a madly typing proponent of the New Atheism. Now, though…that period is the deepest regret of my life (not that that means much, I’ve been lucky to live a life with few regrets). I’m still a strong atheist, and will be on my deathbed, and I do not regret promoting godlessness and a reason-based life, but I was unfortunate to be part of that traveling shit-show before I realized it’s destination was where it is now: a shambles of alt-right memes and dishonest hucksters mangling science to promote racism, sexism, and bloody regressive politics.
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> Wow.

> **[The train wreck that was the New Atheism](https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2019/01/25/the-train-wreck-that-was-the-new-atheism/)**
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> The title of the article is What Was New Atheism?. The use of the past tense is noted. The label was coined in 2006 by Gary Wolf in Wired, and we spent the next decade sort of agreeing that there i…

We are seeing the end of the New Atheists. Keep in mind, also, that ID was formed as a reaction as against the New Atheists, and BioLogos was a reaction against ID and YEC. With the fading of the New Atheists, we are seeing the beginning of a generational changing of the gard. If DI does not adapt, its place will diminish. If BioLogos does not adapt, the same is true for them.

It will be very interesting to see how things shape up from here. That is one reason the scholars under 45 are going to be important. We are the ones who are going to map the new ways forward. Our opposition is, in a very short amount of time, going to be no longer in the conversation.

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