# Science Without Species: Doing Science with Tree-Thinking

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**Created:** [January 2, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/science-without-species-doing-science-with-tree-thinking/15661 "2023-01-02T02:05:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dan\_Eastwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/dan_eastwood/32/2368_2.png) [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/science-without-species-doing-science-with-tree-thinking/15661/1 "2023-01-02T02:05:07Z")

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The latest paper from Nick Matzke, in which @Joe_Felsenstein get considerable mention.

> **[Science Without Species: Doing Science with Tree-Thinking](https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-99031-2_3)**
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> The focus of this volume is speciesism. While the concepts of species and speciation remain the focus of a great deal of research, it is worth exploring how in recent decades evolutionary biology has, in several ways, moved away from species as the...

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**Author:** ![dsterncardinale](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/dsterncardinale/32/9144_2.png) [@dsterncardinale](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/dsterncardinale)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/science-without-species-doing-science-with-tree-thinking/15661/2 "2023-01-03T21:36:07Z")

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I knew I liked that Matzke guy. With any luck the thing I jokingly call a “hot take” in my classes - that species are fake and not useful - gets more lukewarm.

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Eastwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/dan_eastwood/32/2368_2.png) [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2023, 11:31pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/science-without-species-doing-science-with-tree-thinking/15661/3 "2023-01-03T23:31:59Z")

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Paging @Nicko_Matzko 🙂

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/2X/6/6b7bf72453a5c60b0919b6b89a27dc18bc52382c.png) [@system](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 11:32pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/science-without-species-doing-science-with-tree-thinking/15661/4 "2023-01-10T23:32:53Z")

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