# The Argument Clinic

**URL:** https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-argument-clinic/15561
**Category:** Side Conversation
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**Created:** [November 22, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-argument-clinic/15561 "2022-11-22T14:16:20Z")
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### Author: ![Rumraket](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/rumraket/32/9328_2.png) [@Rumraket](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Rumraket)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2022, 7:59pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-argument-clinic/15561/1355 "2022-10-25T19:59:15Z")

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> [@colewd](#):
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> Where is the nested hierarchy in chromosome arrangements that matches the phylogenetic data.

Maybe you should look at the actual genes _on_ the chromosomes and not just the number of chromosomes, have you tried that?

There was this thread:  
[https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/chromosome-fusion-in-humans-or-not/](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/chromosome-fusion-in-humans-or-not/)  
and this paper:

> **[Science-1982-Yunis-1525-30.pdf](https://personal.broadinstitute.org/sfs/personal/Science-1982-Yunis-1525-30.pdf)**
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> 2.97 MB

In which we find these nice figures:

 ![Evidence that Bill Cole is an APE](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/2X/4/44fea3c1e14b4e4d517228c5eeb8b06e1fcee220.jpeg)  
 ![More evidence that Bill Cole is an APE](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/2X/d/d6d3dcabe1d51c276c21b447a0166ef98bd9b0a5.jpeg)

> [@colewd](#):
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> Your argument about consistent nested hierarchies is challenged a second time from the problem of different genes not following the branching pattern.

No.

> [@colewd](#):
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> The sequence problem, the waiting time problem, the gene arrangement problem, and now the chromosome matching problem. What’s next?

Those are all based on assumptions that have no support in any empirical evidence from real biology.

> [@colewd](#):
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> It looks like God left us the evidence that shows the order of creation events in Genesis 1 is most likely correct
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> [Chimpanzee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimpanzee)  
> (_Pan troglodytes_) 48
> 
> [Potato](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato)  
> (_Solanum tuberosum_) 48

Well if one is blind and/or have cognitive problems then I’m sure that’s what it looks like to you. But up above there’s some more detailed data that goes way beyond there mere number of chromosomes.

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