# The Argument Clinic

**URL:** <https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-argument-clinic/15561>\
**Category:** Side Conversation\
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**Created:** [November 22, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-argument-clinic/15561 "2022-11-22T14:16:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Roy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/roy/32/3799_2.png) [@Roy](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Roy)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 9:28am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-argument-clinic/15561/2437 "2024-02-14T09:28:13Z")

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> [@CrisprCAS9](#):
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> Now, now… it’s point and laugh **until** Bill shows his math.

Can I also point and laugh _after_ Bill shows his maths?

[E.g.](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/do-all-deer-share-a-common-ancestor/16040/546):

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> Even if there are 10^115 different sequences able to adopt the fold the total sequence space is 10^490 so there are 10^385 sequences that do not adopt the fold.

[Or](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-argument-clinic/15561/2108):

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> 10^482 is an approximation of 20^371. 2^371 is about 4… e^111. I just approximate to 10^111. Subtract 482-111 and you get 10^371.

[Or](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-argument-clinic/15561/2096):

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> But my answer was about 3x in the exponent too large. The flagellum to fold and bind 30 proteins will take about 2^10000 trials. Translated to the fraction 2^-10000 or 18^10000/20^10000.

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