# The Time Comes For Genealogy

**URL:** <https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980>\
**Category:** Peaceful Science\
**Created:** [January 18, 2019, 5:47am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980 "2019-01-18T05:47:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/2X/6/6b7bf72453a5c60b0919b6b89a27dc18bc52382c.png) [@system](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 5:47am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/1 "2019-01-18T05:47:58Z")

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> **[The Time Comes For Genealogy](https://peacefulscience.org/articles/time-comes/)**
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> Most new ideas turn out to be old ideas whose time has come, or even ideas that have returned after a long absence. The Genealogical Adam’s time has come.

> > This weekend, about 30 scholars are traveling to St Louis from across the country to discuss my book manuscript on the _Genealogical Adam and Eve_. Two international scholars, @jongarvey and @Andrew_Loke will not be in attendance, even though they are are also writing books on the _Genealogical Adam and Eve._ Their unfortunate absence, nonetheless, is a good opportunity to remember some of the story that brought us here, and the many people that have helped us along. Jon Garvey has been part of the conversation for much longer than me, and might have credit for being the first theologian to engage with genealogical science. Here is how he tells the story, and explains why the time has come for this idea.
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> Most new ideas turn out to be old ideas whose time has come, or even ideas that have returned after a long absence. I explored an example of the first in a [blog post](http://potiphar.jongarvey.co.uk/2016/01/16/a-short-history-of-air/), describing how [Empodocles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empedocles) (c. 450 BCE) was the first to name “air” as a material substance after finding that a bucket inverted in water retained a pocket of air. Such a phenomenon must have been seen for millennia before, but not interpreted as significant. _[Genealogical Adam](http://peacefulscience.org/genealogical-rapprochement/)_ did not have to wait so long to be seen as important, but its seeds have certainly been around for a long time.

Several people from the forum will be here, including @CPArand, @Philosurfer, @NLENTS, @davidson, @Joel_Duff, @deuteroKJ, and many more. Perhaps even @Guy_Coe might pop up in a picture here or there. More info to come, but definitely read the excellent article by @jongarvey.

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**Author:** ![swamidass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/swamidass/32/3_2.png) [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/4 "2019-01-18T19:25:48Z")

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**Author:** ![T\_aquaticus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/t_aquaticus/32/1249_2.png) [@T\_aquaticus](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/T_aquaticus)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/5 "2019-01-18T23:04:45Z")

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This is really exciting. Genealogical Adam didn’t seem workable at first, but the more I read the more I agreed that it certainly doesn’t run afoul of any science. I think it is an elegant way of holding science in one hand and faith in the other.

I expect to hear stories from the Peaceful Science crew!!

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**Author:** ![Guy\_Coe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/guy_coe/32/1972_2.png) [@Guy\_Coe](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Guy_Coe)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/6 "2019-01-18T23:38:02Z")

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Yeah; Josh is a pretty elegant guy… :. )  
Thanks for the well wishes, and wish you could be there, too! Maybe another time?

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**Author:** ![swamidass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/swamidass/32/3_2.png) [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/7 "2019-01-19T02:30:21Z")

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10 posts were split to a new topic: [Comments on Time for Genealogy](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/comments-on-time-for-genealogy/3993)

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Eastwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/dan_eastwood/32/2368_2.png) [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/8 "2019-01-20T18:31:23Z")

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30 scholars and a few scalawags!

Running a little late, be there 3-ish.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Callen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/michael_callen/32/897_2.png) [@Michael\_Callen](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Michael_Callen)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 2:42pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/9 "2019-01-22T14:42:51Z")

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Please let us know how the meetings went. I had heard from one hopeful attendee that the severe storms had kept him from traveling. Was that so for others? Hoping all went well.

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**Author:** ![Dan\_Eastwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/dan_eastwood/32/2368_2.png) [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/10 "2019-01-22T16:07:30Z")

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A few photos from the events.

[[23 new photos · Album by Dan Eastwood] Genealogical Adam Workshop ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/2X/2/2a45cb6dc04979cfbe550ddfdf5a46b15c7f6709.jpeg "Genealogical Adam Workshop") ](https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMh3cY_Iw2fps_JyFehym5utjD_W_LbTaT8ko-7NcyegXS7gtK-UJmCciCvgau0YA?key=LWpMNUYwUm4wUm1yOXlsN0szdFRrdEcwaVRyQVhB)

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**Author:** ![Argon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/argon/32/3896_2.png) [@Argon](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Argon)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/11 "2019-01-22T18:16:12Z")

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What a bunch of nerds! 😋

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**Author:** ![swamidass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/swamidass/32/3_2.png) [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/12 "2019-01-23T00:35:36Z")

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> [@Dan\_Eastwood](#):
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> 30 scholars and a few scalawags!

@jongarvey your name came up many many times, as did yours @Andrew_Loke. There is high interest on your Adam books.

@jongarvey several people asked me for an introduction to you, and to learn more about God’s Good Earth.

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**Author:** ![jongarvey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/jongarvey/32/5_2.png) [@jongarvey](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/jongarvey)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 8:10am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/13 "2019-01-23T08:10:47Z")

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Well, that’s gratifying, on both counts. I hope you pointed them to the [fansite](http://www.godsgoodearth.org/), or the [publisher’s outlet](https://wipfandstock.com/god-s-good-earth.html)!

But by all means introduce anyone, apart from scalawags, by e-mail. I need all the friends I can get.  
Anyway, glad the work on your book went OK, which is after all what it is about.

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**Author:** ![Guy\_Coe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/guy_coe/32/1972_2.png) [@Guy\_Coe](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Guy_Coe)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/14 "2019-01-23T21:15:59Z")

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What’s so bad about scalawags??! Will be ordering a copy soon; you would have enjoyed the conference.

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**Author:** ![swamidass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/swamidass/32/3_2.png) [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/15 "2019-02-03T18:59:30Z")

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Heavy hitters today. WLC, @Agauger, and @AJRoberts…

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/2X/a/a8dfa98c0fbaf22c1b9f63ef60b7e6da8a1ccb17.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Patrick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b2d939/32.png) [@Patrick](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Patrick)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/16 "2019-02-03T19:15:03Z")

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Looks like an afternoon at the Senior Center. 🕶

@AJRoberts I recommend the Cobb salad with dressing on the side. 🕶

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**Author:** ![John\_Harshman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/john_harshman/32/1121_2.png) [@John\_Harshman](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/John_Harshman)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/17 "2019-02-03T19:16:51Z")

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Did either of them manage to take a position and present evidence for it?

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**Author:** ![Art](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/art/32/3805_2.png) [@Art](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Art)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/18 "2019-02-03T19:28:25Z")

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Looks like a pretty subdued Super Bowl party to me. @Agauger, where’s the Patriots gear?

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**Author:** ![swamidass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/swamidass/32/3_2.png) [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/19 "2019-02-03T19:46:26Z")

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> [@Patrick](#):
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> Looks like an afternoon at the Senior Center.

There are young people here too 😄. Say “hi” to another forum member here!

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/peacefulscience/original/2X/4/4d668fadcf0806ecf43367773303ae993fdbea1d.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Guy\_Coe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/guy_coe/32/1972_2.png) [@Guy\_Coe](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Guy_Coe)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/20 "2019-02-03T22:56:57Z")

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Hi, to all the youngsters in the room, and even to the really young kids! BTW, @Patrick, you’re a year older than I am, you old fogey, you! : )

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**Author:** ![Guy\_Coe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/guy_coe/32/1972_2.png) [@Guy\_Coe](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Guy_Coe)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/21 "2019-02-04T03:27:22Z")

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Hoping the day went well, and progress was made!

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**Author:** ![Agauger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/agauger/32/144_2.png) [@Agauger](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Agauger)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 5:26am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-time-comes-for-genealogy/3980/22 "2019-02-04T05:26:21Z")

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@Art I forgot my hat!

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