# Veritas Forums the Week Dad Died (January 2018)

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**Created:** [February 9, 2018, 6:28am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/veritas-forums-the-week-dad-died-january-2018/77 "2018-02-09T06:28:11Z")
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### Author: ![swamidass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/swamidass/32/3_2.png) [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2018, 11:44pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/veritas-forums-the-week-dad-died-january-2018/77/5 "2018-02-18T23:44:02Z")

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## Are Humans Special?

The video for the Veritas Forum from Wednesday night, at Cal Poly SLO with Dr. Hugh Ross and Dr. S Joshua Swamidass was posted.

Hugh gives his talk on the fine tuning argument.

I answered in a few ways. In an important sense, it is self-evident that humans are special to one another. However, perhaps the real question is something different, are we special to anyone _greater_ than us? I think we are, and I know this by what I find in Jesus: [Is There Evidence for Easter? A Scientist's List. - The Veritas Forum - The Veritas Forum](http://www.veritas.org/evidence-easter-scientists-list/).

We discuss together are similarities and differences afterwards. This was a significant exchange. Looking forward to hearing everyone’s thoughts.

Of note, I had a beer with George Murphy last week, one of my favorite theologians, who could not be more different than Hugh Ross in his understanding of God’s revelation and nature (see [http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2006/PSCF3-06Murphy.pdf](http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2006/PSCF3-06Murphy.pdf)). One of Murphy’s best contributions is developing the theology of God’s hiddenness; if God is hidden in the Cross, we expect much of His work to be hidden in Nature too.

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Cannot have much more of a contrast than between Hugh Ross and George Murphy. I find myself, in many ways, between the two. Doesn’t everyone?

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