# Vert evolution: New paper

**URL:** <https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/vert-evolution-new-paper/11751>\
**Category:** Conversation\
**Tags:** Science\
**Created:** [September 17, 2020, 5:07am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/vert-evolution-new-paper/11751 "2020-09-17T05:07:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![T.j\_Runyon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/t.j_runyon/32/9662_2.png) [@T.j\_Runyon](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/T.j_Runyon)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 5:07am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/vert-evolution-new-paper/11751/1 "2020-09-17T05:07:49Z")

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What does everyone think?

[https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2720-z](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2720-z)

> **[Scientists identify gene family key to unlocking vertebrate evolution](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/09/200916131041.htm)**
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> New research finds that the traits that make vertebrates distinct from invertebrates were made possible by the emergence of a new set of genes 500 million years ago, documenting an important episode in evolution where new genes played a significant...

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**Author:** ![Rumraket](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/rumraket/32/9328_2.png) [@Rumraket](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Rumraket)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 10:37am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/vert-evolution-new-paper/11751/2 "2020-09-17T10:37:44Z")

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Sounds interesting. Endothelin receptors are apparently GPC receptors, so likely just originated by duplication. I gather it was the peptide ligands that are thought to have emerged “de novo”.

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**Author:** ![John\_Harshman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/john_harshman/32/1121_2.png) [@John\_Harshman](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/John_Harshman)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 2:06pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/vert-evolution-new-paper/11751/3 "2020-09-17T14:06:16Z")

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Interesting, but a victim of university press release hype. I wonder what the real paper says. Let us recall that neural crest develops into a lot of the same sorts of tissues that regular ectoderm and mesoderm also do.

Looks like it’s open access.  
[https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2720-z](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2720-z)