# We Are Mystified by Eric Holloway

**URL:** https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/we-are-mystified-by-eric-holloway/2186
**Category:** Side Conversation
**Tags:** Design
**Created:** [October 3, 2018, 5:21am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/we-are-mystified-by-eric-holloway/2186 "2018-10-03T05:21:12Z")
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### Author: ![EricMH](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.peacefulscience.org/ericmh/32/679_2.png) [@EricMH](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/EricMH)
#### Post date: [October 10, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/we-are-mystified-by-eric-holloway/2186/16 "2018-10-10T15:24:19Z")

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> [@Explaining the Cancer Information Calculation](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/explaining-the-cancer-information-calculation/1932/54):
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> Even if you prove all his implementations don’t work, he can always fall back on that basic claim that all order in nature is ID.

Exactly, this is why the whole implementation exercise @swamidass had me do is pointless, which I said from the beginning. @swamidass needs to state his argument against ID instead of this long misdirection he had me doing for weeks.

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