# We Are Mystified by Eric Holloway

**URL:** <https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/we-are-mystified-by-eric-holloway/2186>\
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**Created:** [October 3, 2018, 5:21am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/we-are-mystified-by-eric-holloway/2186 "2018-10-03T05:21:12Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/we-are-mystified-by-eric-holloway/2186/45 "2018-10-11T03:34:07Z")

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> [@colewd](#):
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> > We are missing a clear specification of how to connect empirical data to the model.
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> The basic theory is that if LoING is \> 0 it is the result of conscious intelligence and not chance and determinism.

Have you read an understood this thread? [The Law of Information Non Growth](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-law-of-information-non-growth/2174)

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