# \#Church

**URL:** https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/tag/church/18.md

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## [A History of the Tradition of the Image of Edessa](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/a-history-of-the-tradition-of-the-image-of-edessa/17412)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [September 4, 2025, 6:24pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/a-history-of-the-tradition-of-the-image-of-edessa/17412 "2025-09-04T18:24:52Z")

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Given that the ‘Image of Edessa’ has reared its ugly head again, I thought that, rather than relying on @Giltil’s bald assertions and @colewd’s AI slop on the subject, it would be worth while tracing the history and deve…

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## [Lawsuits and Leadership: What’s Beneath the Surface at AiG?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/lawsuits-and-leadership-what-s-beneath-the-surface-at-aig/17296)

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**Author:** [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [July 3, 2025, 12:17pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/lawsuits-and-leadership-what-s-beneath-the-surface-at-aig/17296 "2025-07-03T12:17:57Z")

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I’m copying over (with permission) two FB posts in the order I encountered them, and following with a link to the author’s (Riley Barton) blog post of the same title. The first is a mini-history of AiG, the second some c…

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## [The Early Church, Genesis, and Evolution](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-early-church-genesis-and-evolution/17259)

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**Author:** [@misterme987](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/misterme987)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [June 18, 2025, 6:21pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-early-church-genesis-and-evolution/17259 "2025-06-18T18:21:42Z")

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Recently I’ve been studying the writings of the early church fathers, especially with regard to their views on the creation and fall. Since this topic was just brought up in the “Let’s exegete Genesis 9:8-11” conversatio…

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## [Cartoon Friday #8](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/cartoon-friday-8/16881)

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**Author:** [@AllenWitmerMiller](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/AllenWitmerMiller)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [November 15, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/cartoon-friday-8/16881 "2024-11-15T13:54:34Z")

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Recent events are such a gold mine for political wit that every comedy writer out there—especially those working for the late night talk shows—is coming up with similar material. I saw at least two versions of this same…

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## [Cartoon Friday #5](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/cartoon-friday-5/16835)

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**Author:** [@AllenWitmerMiller](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/AllenWitmerMiller)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [October 31, 2024, 7:19pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/cartoon-friday-5/16835 "2024-10-31T19:19:23Z")

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This week’s madness: . . . . . . . . .

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## [Unlikely Allies: Biology Teachers and Creationists](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/unlikely-allies-biology-teachers-and-creationists/16657)

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**Author:** [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [April 22, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/unlikely-allies-biology-teachers-and-creationists/16657 "2024-04-22T23:32:57Z")

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@paulbraterman has a new article up at Panda’s Thumb. It’s a bit complex, and I recommend giving it a careful read.

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## [Outstanding article about US evangelist churches being swallowed up by politics](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/outstanding-article-about-us-evangelist-churches-being-swallowed-up-by-politics/16240)

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**Author:** [@Mercer](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Mercer)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [July 31, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/outstanding-article-about-us-evangelist-churches-being-swallowed-up-by-politics/16240 "2023-07-31T13:34:28Z")

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## [Winning the Masses… with a Story](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/winning-the-masses-with-a-story/16046)

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**Author:** [@Bryar\_Kader](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Bryar_Kader)\
**Replies:** 23\
**Last updated:** [May 25, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/winning-the-masses-with-a-story/16046 "2023-05-25T20:10:27Z")

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First time I’ve posted in a while, been very busy being a dad :slight\_smile: As I have become more vocal about my belief in evolution AND in the creation of the universe by the hands of the God of the Bible, I’ve found …

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## [Evangelical Christianity, shared humanity, and the culture war](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/evangelical-christianity-shared-humanity-and-the-culture-war/15871)

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**Author:** [@djkriese](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/djkriese)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [March 10, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/evangelical-christianity-shared-humanity-and-the-culture-war/15871 "2023-03-10T16:34:37Z")

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Notice what was passed in Tennessee: https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=HB0878 No restrictions built in. Not just private citizens/orgs stated. Culture war has consequences and vehicles/…

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## [Homeschool](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/homeschool/15659)

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**Author:** [@Bryar\_Kader](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Bryar_Kader)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [January 2, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/homeschool/15659 "2023-01-02T20:03:55Z")

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Hi all! I have a year old baby girl and while school is a ways off for her, I am wanting to weigh some options in preparation for when she is old enough. I already know I want to homeschool, but I want to avoid Christi…

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## [Can Schools Change Religious Attitudes?  Evidence from German State Reforms of  Compulsory Religious Education](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/can-schools-change-religious-attitudes-evidence-from-german-state-reforms-of-compulsory-religious-education/14754)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [January 24, 2022, 6:39am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/can-schools-change-religious-attitudes-evidence-from-german-state-reforms-of-compulsory-religious-education/14754 "2022-01-24T06:39:33Z")

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Abstract: We study whether compulsory religious education in schools affects students’ religiosity as adults. We exploit the staggered termination of compulsory religious education across German states in models wi…

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## [The “Right” History: Religion, Race, and Nostalgic Stories of Christian America](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-right-history-religion-race-and-nostalgic-stories-of-christian-america/14637)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [January 1, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-right-history-religion-race-and-nostalgic-stories-of-christian-america/14637 "2022-01-01T14:56:35Z")

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Abstract A wide range of right-wing movements are bound together by their adherence to a nostalgic vision of the United States as a “Christian nation,” yet there are meaningful differences in the specific narratives pr…

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## [Further confirmation that Evangelicals are shrinking in the US](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/further-confirmation-that-evangelicals-are-shrinking-in-the-us/14582)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [December 23, 2021, 3:31am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/further-confirmation-that-evangelicals-are-shrinking-in-the-us/14582 "2021-12-23T03:31:54Z")

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Back in the very first thread I participated in (back in 2019), I addressed the question of whether the number Evangelical(/Born-Again) Protestants were decreasing in the US. There was a degree of resistance to and/or qu…

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## [Most Americans Would Trust Their Clergy’s COVID-19 Vaccine Advice](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/most-americans-would-trust-their-clergy-s-covid-19-vaccine-advice/14399)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [October 16, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/most-americans-would-trust-their-clergy-s-covid-19-vaccine-advice/14399 "2021-10-16T18:48:36Z")

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I found this graph a particular relief: After all the reports I’ve seen of high-profile extremist preachers denying the existence of Covid, calling the vaccine the work of the devil, etc (and, not infrequently then…

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## [Troll farms run the largest Christian groups on Facebook](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/troll-farms-run-the-largest-christian-groups-on-facebook/14339)

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**Author:** [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [October 9, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/troll-farms-run-the-largest-christian-groups-on-facebook/14339 "2021-10-09T16:23:29Z")

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This is not entirely surprising, but the extent to which troll farms influence people is very disturbing. The original report (PDF) at the link below. Link for other languages:

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## [Why Do Christians Find It So Hard To Be Human? – Warren Throckmorton](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/why-do-christians-find-it-so-hard-to-be-human-warren-throckmorton/14264)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [September 17, 2021, 3:11pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/why-do-christians-find-it-so-hard-to-be-human-warren-throckmorton/14264 "2021-09-17T15:11:15Z")

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## [Not Peace, But Division? Evangelical Vaccine Refusers Divide Families](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/not-peace-but-division-evangelical-vaccine-refusers-divide-families/13737)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 32\
**Last updated:** [June 3, 2021, 12:34pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/not-peace-but-division-evangelical-vaccine-refusers-divide-families/13737 "2021-06-03T12:34:11Z")

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## [Canadian Evangelical college denied university status](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/canadian-evangelical-college-denied-university-status/13763)

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**Author:** [@Faizal\_Ali](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Faizal_Ali)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [May 28, 2021, 7:51am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/canadian-evangelical-college-denied-university-status/13763 "2021-05-28T07:51:51Z")

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This is good news. While Canada does have Evangelical colleges and universities, these are quite different from such institutions in the US like BIOLA and Liberty, in that they provide legitimate high quality education …

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## [Babel:History Or Not?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/babel-history-or-not/13753)

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**Author:** [@Nick](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Nick)\
**Replies:** 37\
**Last updated:** [May 27, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/babel-history-or-not/13753 "2021-05-27T18:16:08Z")

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Is the tower of Babel rooted in history?Ive seen several claims that they want the tower to be just a Zigurat but is that the case?Whta meaning could the story possibly have? Are there any sources that migh exist ?

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## [Inquiry, Not Science, as the Source of Secularization in Higher Education](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/inquiry-not-science-as-the-source-of-secularization-in-higher-education/13745)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [May 18, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/inquiry-not-science-as-the-source-of-secularization-in-higher-education/13745 "2021-05-18T20:25:49Z")

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Abstract The traditional claim in the literature on religion and science is that exposure to science leads to secularity because the claims about the natural world in the two systems are incompatible. More recently, …

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## [Church Services and Emotional Priming](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/church-services-and-emotional-priming/13670)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [May 4, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/church-services-and-emotional-priming/13670 "2021-05-04T19:10:33Z")

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This video did not resemble the (fairly traditionally-formatted, liberal mainline) church services I remember from my childhood. It did however give disturbing echoes of what I saw of my brother’s Pentecost…

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## [Diversity Advocates at CCCU Schools: ‘In Some Ways, You’re Seen as a Heretic’](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/diversity-advocates-at-cccu-schools-in-some-ways-you-re-seen-as-a-heretic/13653)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [April 30, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/diversity-advocates-at-cccu-schools-in-some-ways-you-re-seen-as-a-heretic/13653 "2021-04-30T16:15:11Z")

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## [Historical Reports Of Jesus](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/historical-reports-of-jesus/13602)

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**Author:** [@Nick](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Nick)\
**Replies:** 28\
**Last updated:** [April 23, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/historical-reports-of-jesus/13602 "2021-04-23T18:30:51Z")

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Greetings everyone !!Its my first time here ,and i have a question! Apart from Josephus and The Early Church Fathers we dont really have any more historical evidence about Jesus.Origen(or Tacitus) has speculated in some …

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## [When Religion Hurts: Structural Sexism and Health in Religious Congregations](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/when-religion-hurts-structural-sexism-and-health-in-religious-congregations/13600)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [April 21, 2021, 3:29pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/when-religion-hurts-structural-sexism-and-health-in-religious-congregations/13600 "2021-04-21T15:29:08Z")

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Abstract An emerging line of research has begun to document the relationship between structural sexism and health. This work shows that structural sexism—defined as systematic gender inequality in power and resource…

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## [The Immortality Key: ... the psychedelic roots of Christianity](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-immortality-key-the-psychedelic-roots-of-christianity/13306)

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**Author:** [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [March 5, 2021, 4:51am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-immortality-key-the-psychedelic-roots-of-christianity/13306 "2021-03-05T04:51:59Z")

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I’m not sure what to make of this, but it’s an angle on Christianity I haven’t seen before. The Immortality Key: Brian Muraresku on the psychedelic roots of Christianity. https://www.vox.com/vox-conversations-podcast/2…

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## [Faith and Religion Among Black Americans](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/faith-and-religion-among-black-americans/13222)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 17, 2021, 3:22pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/faith-and-religion-among-black-americans/13222 "2021-02-17T15:22:47Z")

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## [YEC: Denying Facts or Differing Interpretations of Data?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/yec-denying-facts-or-differing-interpretations-of-data/12792)

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**Author:** [@thoughtful](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/thoughtful)\
**Replies:** 71\
**Last updated:** [December 21, 2020, 2:54am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/yec-denying-facts-or-differing-interpretations-of-data/12792 "2020-12-21T02:54:44Z")

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If anyone has any other facts that you believe/know/think YEC deny, please list them. The Gould quote is an interesting one to discuss.

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## [SCOTUS decision on COVID-19 restrictions in New York](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/scotus-decision-on-covid-19-restrictions-in-new-york/12590)

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**Author:** [@Faizal\_Ali](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Faizal_Ali)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [November 29, 2020, 3:10am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/scotus-decision-on-covid-19-restrictions-in-new-york/12590 "2020-11-29T03:10:34Z")

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Good summary here: As concerned as I am about creeping anti-secularism in the USA, I am not as concerned by this case as many other secularists seem to be. First of all, it is not a final decision but merely a stay p…

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## ['Monkey Girl' and Religious Tribalism](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/monkey-girl-and-religious-tribalism/12471)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 50\
**Last updated:** [November 28, 2020, 2:11pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/monkey-girl-and-religious-tribalism/12471 "2020-11-28T14:11:01Z")

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I’ve just finished Edward Hume’s Monkey Girl: Evolution, Education, Religion, and the Battle for America’s Soul. Although I followed the trial obsessively back in 2005, and have previously read two books about the trial…

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## [That Time Geocentrists Tricked A Bunch of Physicists](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/that-time-geocentrists-tricked-a-bunch-of-physicists/12585)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2020, 12:55pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/that-time-geocentrists-tricked-a-bunch-of-physicists/12585 "2020-11-27T12:55:46Z")

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This dig into the background of the documentary The Principle, echoes a number of issues that may be familiar in terms of ideologically-motivated misrepresentation of science (and the documentary appears to…

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