# \#History

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## [A History of the Tradition of the Image of Edessa](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/a-history-of-the-tradition-of-the-image-of-edessa/17412)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [September 4, 2025, 6:24pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/a-history-of-the-tradition-of-the-image-of-edessa/17412 "2025-09-04T18:24:52Z")

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Given that the ‘Image of Edessa’ has reared its ugly head again, I thought that, rather than relying on @Giltil’s bald assertions and @colewd’s AI slop on the subject, it would be worth while tracing the history and deve…

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## [500 Witnesses to Paul](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/500-witnesses-to-paul/17332)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 48\
**Last updated:** [August 2, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/500-witnesses-to-paul/17332 "2025-08-02T23:58:58Z")

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\[Note to readers: this post isn’t really the OP post on this topic – that would be this post, which is the first post on this thread to mention “500 witnesses”.\] I always assumed that it came as part and parcel of bein…

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## [Lawsuits and Leadership: What’s Beneath the Surface at AiG?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/lawsuits-and-leadership-what-s-beneath-the-surface-at-aig/17296)

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**Author:** [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [July 3, 2025, 12:17pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/lawsuits-and-leadership-what-s-beneath-the-surface-at-aig/17296 "2025-07-03T12:17:57Z")

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I’m copying over (with permission) two FB posts in the order I encountered them, and following with a link to the author’s (Riley Barton) blog post of the same title. The first is a mini-history of AiG, the second some c…

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## [The Early Church, Genesis, and Evolution](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-early-church-genesis-and-evolution/17259)

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**Author:** [@misterme987](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/misterme987)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [June 18, 2025, 6:21pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-early-church-genesis-and-evolution/17259 "2025-06-18T18:21:42Z")

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Recently I’ve been studying the writings of the early church fathers, especially with regard to their views on the creation and fall. Since this topic was just brought up in the “Let’s exegete Genesis 9:8-11” conversatio…

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## [On Establishing a Date for the Deluge of Noah](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/on-establishing-a-date-for-the-deluge-of-noah/11055)

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**Author:** [@Ur-Namma](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Ur-Namma)\
**Replies:** 21\
**Last updated:** [March 24, 2025, 7:51pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/on-establishing-a-date-for-the-deluge-of-noah/11055 "2025-03-24T19:51:16Z")

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As of late, I have been pondering Noah’s placement within the chronology of the ANE. For quite a while I accepted the arguments of RTB, which claim the deluge was around 40,000 BC, as it had to of whipped out very human …

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## [Only two bones indicating crucifixion have ever been unearthed](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/only-two-bones-indicating-crucifixion-have-ever-been-unearthed/17002)

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**Author:** [@AllenWitmerMiller](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/AllenWitmerMiller)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [January 17, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/only-two-bones-indicating-crucifixion-have-ever-been-unearthed/17002 "2025-01-17T17:02:19Z")

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One in England and one in Israel. (Some experts would count a couple more in Israel and Egypt but I understand the evidence is much less conclusive in those cases.) PBS has posted on Youtube the latest “Secrets of the De…

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## [Cartoon Friday #5](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/cartoon-friday-5/16835)

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**Author:** [@AllenWitmerMiller](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/AllenWitmerMiller)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [October 31, 2024, 7:19pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/cartoon-friday-5/16835 "2024-10-31T19:19:23Z")

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This week’s madness: . . . . . . . . .

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## [Jonathan Wells, 1942-2024](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/jonathan-wells-1942-2024/16799)

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**Author:** [@Puck\_Mendelssohn](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Puck_Mendelssohn)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [October 3, 2024, 5:07pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/jonathan-wells-1942-2024/16799 "2024-10-03T17:07:09Z")

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I come to bury Wells, and certainly not to praise him. Jonathan Wells was a genuinely odd man. He seems to have been a bit of a hippie at one time, and spent some time in prison for avoidance of military service. Later …

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## [Article: Reconstructing contact and a potential interbreeding geographical zone \[...\]](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/article-reconstructing-contact-and-a-potential-interbreeding-geographical-zone/16778)

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**Author:** [@Patrick](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Patrick)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [September 12, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/article-reconstructing-contact-and-a-potential-interbreeding-geographical-zone/16778 "2024-09-12T02:46:06Z")

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Title: Reconstructing contact and a potential interbreeding geographical zone between Neanderthals and anatomically modern humans By reconstructing contact and a potential interbreeding geographical zone between Neander…

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## [Dembski: Building a Better Definition of Intelligent Design](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/dembski-building-a-better-definition-of-intelligent-design/16746)

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**Author:** [@sfmatheson](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/sfmatheson)\
**Replies:** 216\
**Last updated:** [September 6, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/dembski-building-a-better-definition-of-intelligent-design/16746 "2024-09-06T21:58:40Z")

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Bill Dembski has posted a long, detailed, and interesting piece on how to define “intelligent design.” I enjoyed it and learned from it, and I wonder if it might stimulate some interesting discussion here. It is IMO a t…

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## [Agassiz vs. Gray: "America’s Battle Over Darwinism Was Personal"](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/agassiz-vs-gray-america-s-battle-over-darwinism-was-personal/16760)

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**Author:** [@sfmatheson](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/sfmatheson)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 19, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/agassiz-vs-gray-america-s-battle-over-darwinism-was-personal/16760 "2024-08-19T00:41:16Z")

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This is a remarkable historical piece in The Atlantic, in a newsletter called “Time-Travel Thursdays” that revisits interesting stuff from the archives of the magazine. The link below is a gift link, good for two weeks s…

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## [Does the argument from prophecy support Jesus' resurrection?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/does-the-argument-from-prophecy-support-jesus-resurrection/16598)

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**Author:** [@vjtorley](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/vjtorley)\
**Replies:** 45\
**Last updated:** [April 19, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/does-the-argument-from-prophecy-support-jesus-resurrection/16598 "2024-04-19T16:05:47Z")

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An article by Callum Hoare in The Express, titled, “Scientist finds ‘compelling evidence’ that Jesus Christ resurrected on Easter Sunday” (March 30, 2024) quotes Dr. Joshua Swamidass as saying that Biblical prophecies wr…

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## [GAE and the Noahic Flood (for CASEs)](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/gae-and-the-noahic-flood-for-cases/16547)

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**Author:** [@misterme987](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/misterme987)\
**Replies:** 104\
**Last updated:** [March 28, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/gae-and-the-noahic-flood-for-cases/16547 "2024-03-28T13:11:30Z")

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The purpose of GAE seems to be to interpret the story of Adam and Eve literally, but in a way that brings it into as little conflict as possible with science, in order to show YECs that they can accept both the Bible and…

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## [Mummified animals Napoleon's scientists brought back from Egypt sparked a pre-Darwinian debate about evolution](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/mummified-animals-napoleons-scientists-brought-back-from-egypt-sparked-a-pre-darwinian-debate-about-evolution/16493)

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**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [February 21, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/mummified-animals-napoleons-scientists-brought-back-from-egypt-sparked-a-pre-darwinian-debate-about-evolution/16493 "2024-02-21T16:09:22Z")

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## [Did Melchizedek write Genesis 1:1-2:4?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/did-melchizedek-write-genesis-14/15870)

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**Author:** [@William\_Rogers](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/William_Rogers)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [September 28, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/did-melchizedek-write-genesis-14/15870 "2023-09-28T20:27:07Z")

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Another discussion on this forum asked whether Moses wrote the Pentateuch. At the risk of being even more controversial, can a smaller question be asked? Did Melchizedek write Genesis 1? Few clues hint at who authored G…

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## [How a scholarly spat shaped a century of genetic research](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/how-a-scholarly-spat-shaped-a-century-of-genetic-research/16236)

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**Author:** [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [July 26, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/how-a-scholarly-spat-shaped-a-century-of-genetic-research/16236 "2023-07-26T16:13:46Z")

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How a scholarly spat shaped a century of genetic research An interesting mention of “counterfactual history” here. How might things have been different? https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02310-4

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## [The Resurrection of Jesus: Dale Allison grades Paulogia](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-resurrection-of-jesus-dale-allison-grades-paulogia/15910)

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**Author:** [@Faizal\_Ali](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Faizal_Ali)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [March 28, 2023, 1:40am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-resurrection-of-jesus-dale-allison-grades-paulogia/15910 "2023-03-28T01:40:16Z")

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We have previously had discussions of @Andrew\_Loke’s and Youtuber Paulogia’s views on whether Jesus was resurrected. Andrew had dismissed Paulogia’s account as a “fringe” belief that is not held by scholars. However, B…

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## [Can the "Liar, Lunatic or Lord" argument be made to work?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/can-the-liar-lunatic-or-lord-argument-be-made-to-work/15769)

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**Author:** [@vjtorley](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/vjtorley)\
**Replies:** 144\
**Last updated:** [February 27, 2023, 4:15am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/can-the-liar-lunatic-or-lord-argument-be-made-to-work/15769 "2023-02-27T04:15:43Z")

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Hi everyone. I’ve just written an article over at The Skeptical Zone, titled, Dr. Gavin Ortlund’s defense of C.S. Lewis’s “Liar, Lunatic or Lord” trichotomy, and Why I think it won’t work on skeptics. Comments are welcom…

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## [Mendel's DNA sequenced](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/mendels-dna-sequenced/15687)

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**Author:** [@Mercer](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Mercer)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [January 7, 2023, 4:04am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/mendels-dna-sequenced/15687 "2023-01-07T04:04:27Z")

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## [2022: The Year in Review](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/2022-the-year-in-review/15658)

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**Author:** [@system](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/system)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [January 4, 2023, 11:07pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/2022-the-year-in-review/15658 "2023-01-04T23:07:19Z")

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2022's Top Users Most Time Reading User Hours Read …

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## [The most current philosophical arguments for the existence of God?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-most-current-philosophical-arguments-for-the-existence-of-god/15551)

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**Author:** [@misterme987](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/misterme987)\
**Replies:** 116\
**Last updated:** [November 27, 2022, 7:00am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-most-current-philosophical-arguments-for-the-existence-of-god/15551 "2022-11-27T07:00:13Z")

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I know that many of the people here are Christians, like me, and that many here also do not believe that teleological arguments are valid evidence for the existence of God (which I agree with), as the responses to Audrey…

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## [Geneticist who unmasked lives of ancient humans wins medicine Nobel](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/geneticist-who-unmasked-lives-of-ancient-humans-wins-medicine-nobel/15467)

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**Author:** [@Patrick](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Patrick)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [October 4, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/geneticist-who-unmasked-lives-of-ancient-humans-wins-medicine-nobel/15467 "2022-10-04T14:11:55Z")

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https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-03086-9 Geneticist who unmasked lives of ancient humans wins medicine Nobel Svante Pääbo has made stunning discoveries about human evolution using ancient DNA — and his wor…

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## [The chilling experiment which created the first vaccine](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-chilling-experiment-which-created-the-first-vaccine/15104)

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**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [May 23, 2022, 6:24pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-chilling-experiment-which-created-the-first-vaccine/15104 "2022-05-23T18:24:49Z")

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King Charles IV had lost several members of his own family to smallpox, while others – including his daughter Maria Luisa – were left scarred after surviving the disease. When he heard of Jenner’s vaccine, he commissi…

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## [The Conflict Thesis](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-conflict-thesis/14775)

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**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 48\
**Last updated:** [February 13, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/the-conflict-thesis/14775 "2022-02-13T19:18:35Z")

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@paulbraterman we were discussing the conflict thesis. Have you see this article yet? If you haven’t done so yet, join our mailing list. Tomorrow, the first in a series of excerpts on this topic is coming out.

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## [Map Lets See How Earth Changed Over the Past 750 Million Years](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/map-lets-see-how-earth-changed-over-the-past-750-million-years/14593)

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**Author:** [@Dan\_Eastwood](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Dan_Eastwood)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [December 26, 2021, 7:49pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/map-lets-see-how-earth-changed-over-the-past-750-million-years/14593 "2021-12-26T19:49:35Z")

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This is fun. :smiley:

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## [One of the Most Egregious Ripoffs in the History of Science](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/one-of-the-most-egregious-ripoffs-in-the-history-of-science/14443)

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**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [October 22, 2021, 3:30am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/one-of-the-most-egregious-ripoffs-in-the-history-of-science/14443 "2021-10-22T03:30:43Z")

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Howard Markel explains what motivated him to write a new history of the race to crack the DNA code. “For a trained historian of science and medicine to look through all the details, laboratory results, X-rays, and man…

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## [Babel:History Or Not?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/babel-history-or-not/13753)

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**Author:** [@Nick](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Nick)\
**Replies:** 37\
**Last updated:** [May 27, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/babel-history-or-not/13753 "2021-05-27T18:16:08Z")

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Is the tower of Babel rooted in history?Ive seen several claims that they want the tower to be just a Zigurat but is that the case?Whta meaning could the story possibly have? Are there any sources that migh exist ?

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## [On The Origin of Species: The story of Darwin's title](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/on-the-origin-of-species-the-story-of-darwins-title/13701)

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**Author:** [@swamidass](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/swamidass)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [May 9, 2021, 11:43pm UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/on-the-origin-of-species-the-story-of-darwins-title/13701 "2021-05-09T23:43:26Z")

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https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsnr.2018.0015 The genesis of Charles Darwin’s book On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life …

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## [CNN article on race and equations used for health](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/cnn-article-on-race-and-equations-used-for-health/13647)

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**Author:** [@thoughtful](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/thoughtful)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [April 30, 2021, 4:05am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/cnn-article-on-race-and-equations-used-for-health/13647 "2021-04-30T04:05:59Z")

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https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/25/health/race-correction-in-medicine-history-refocused/index.html I thought this was a very interesting article. It made me reflect on what I read from David Reich about genetic differences …

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## [What is a "reasonable assumption", and what are the limitations of the concept?](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/what-is-a-reasonable-assumption-and-what-are-the-limitations-of-the-concept/13401)

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**Author:** [@Tim](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/u/Tim)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [March 22, 2021, 5:07am UTC](https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/what-is-a-reasonable-assumption-and-what-are-the-limitations-of-the-concept/13401 "2021-03-22T05:07:12Z")

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In his earlier defense of his speculations, @Andrew\_Loke made frequent use of the phrase “reasonable assumption”, and I think it is worth further inquiry as to what this phrase might mean, and what it’s conceptual and pr…

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