In the name of good science AND good manners, would the participants please refrain from imputing dishonest motives to each other? It’s one thing to misinterpret evidence, another to misinterpret rationales, and yet another to misinterpret motives. In the free for all environment on how much lab environments can tend to predispose results, both perspectives have their darkhorse candidates. I applaud this thread to the degree that it tries to reach for a mutual understanding, in the face of disagreement. That is the attempt to do good science. Cheers!