Comments on Gpuccio: Functional Information Methodology

[Dan_Eastwood]

@Art

Can we speak about the information content of a tornadic thunderstorm?

Likewise, any thermodynamic system will have the same sort of complexity.
I anticipate the claim that a thunderstorm has no function.

@gpuccio

Frankly, I cannot see any relevant FI in the configuration of stars. Maybe we can define some function for which a few bits could be computed, but no more than that.

How about navigation? (@swamidass was headed that way already)

@swamidass

No, I’m just using a particular definition of function, which parallels yours in biology. If you don’t want me to use my definition, I am not sure you can use yours.
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It seems you are defining function by the already observed configuration of proteins in extant biology. This does not take into account the configurations that would produce the same high level functions, but we just don’t see because it is not what happened.

If these are the rules, you are breaking them. Right?

It was a long setup, but we finally got there.