Computing Information Content in Biology

[Mung]

I want to say that I respect Joshua and his goals for this site. This particular topic, the relationship between information theory and biology, has been explored since “information theory” first made its appearance on the scene. It has a long history since then. Perhaps we can learn something from that history.

An interesting topic. Worthy of discussion. IMO.

[Patrick]

@Mung

I want to say that I respect Joshua and his goals for this site. This particular topic, the relationship between information theory and biology, has been explored since “information theory” first made its appearance on the scene. It has a long history since then. Perhaps we can learn something from that history.

An interesting topic. Worthy of discussion. IMO.

Yes, as I have a background in information theory as it applies to communication systems and NONE as it applies to biological systems, I am interested in learning at least something about the subject.

[Mung]

@Patrick

No, I expressed interest in it. Just that it is a very old set of documents has it stood up?

You apply this “skepticism” to the works of newton and einstein, but not to the works of claude shannon?

[Patrick]

@Mung

You apply this “skepticism” to the works of newton and einstein, but not to the works of claude shannon?

I apply skepticism to everything.

[Mung]

@Patrick

I am interested in learning at least something about the subject.

OK, sure, another source.

Information and the living system.Lila Gatlin. 1972.

Also available for the quite reasonable price of ONE BILLION DOLLARS!

[Patrick]

@Mung

OK, sure, another source.

Information and the living system.Lila Gatlin. 1972.

Also available for the quite reasonable price of ONE BILLION DOLLARS!

Amazon’s got it for $22.

[Mung]

@Patrick

I apply skepticism to everything.

I await your OP on the application of skepticism to skepticism.

[Ashwin_s]

@Argon

I’m seeing a problem with the notion of modification via animal breeding being less problematic than evolution with natural selection… Or rather, the idea that Eric’s analysis would distinguish between the two; one being possible and the latter mathematically ‘wrong’ or improbable. Am I misinterpreting the statement?

I think it’s about injecting information into the experiment. In animal breeding, the breeder act as a halting Oracle…
In evolution, there is supposed to be no such thing.

[gbrooks9 (GeorgeB)]

@Mung

thank you. I was concerned about being bullied by a militant atheist who had been granted powers not in keeping with the goals of your blog.

I share those concerns!

[gbrooks9 (GeorgeB)]

@Ashwin_s

In evolution, there is supposed to be no such thing.

@Ashwin_s ,

That is only true for evolution NOT LED by God. Pat Robertson believes God drives evolution.

[jongarvey]

Information Theory, Evolution and the Origin of Life. Hubert Yockey, Cambridge UP, 2005 any help?

[Ashwin_s]

@gbrooks9

That is only true for evolution NOT LED by God. Pat Robertson believes God drives evolution.

I like Pat Robertson… however, do you really want to use him as an endorsement for evolution?
Does anybody consider him as some kind of authority?

[gbrooks9 (GeorgeB)]

@Ashwin_s

I like Pat Robertson… however, do you really want to use him as an endorsement for evolution?
Does anybody consider him as some kind of authority?

@Ashwin_s

Pat Robertson is not so much an authority as an exemplar - - that someone with a very deep attachment to Biblical authority reached a conclusion that is shared by @swamidass!

This is evidence that @swamidass IS THE NEW midpoint between Evangelical Creationists and BioLogos!

Joshua’s arrival with PeacefulScience.org in the last year completely disrupts the expectation that BioLogos would somehow become a viable midpoint between Science and Religion. But now that we have PS’s “dual creation scenarios” to consider… why would most any stripe of Evangelical creationist walk past PS.org to embrace BioLogos?

[Ashwin_s]

@gbrooks9

Pat Robertson is not so much an authority as an exemplar - - that someone with a very deep attachment to Biblical authority reached a conclusion that is shared by @swamidass!

Well good for Pat Robertson…