Not yet. If you could look at Howe’s diagram and boldly assert that the organisms he sampled were independently created, then nothing stops you from making the same assertion with regards to the ones I posted since they were made in the exactly the same Howe’s diagram was. Independent creation or not?
Stop this nonsense Bill. Those diagrams are very clear. Those numbers mean exactly the same thing with what you saw in Howe’s diagram. So which is it, independent creation or not?
This is your assertion Michael, if they are the same type of genes in the Howe diagram and they are the same species known to descend from a common ancestor all you have to do is make a positive argument.
Your requirement to ask a “gotcha question” by provided limited information and demanding an answer makes me wonder if you have anything to add to the discussion.
Bill doesn’t want to say whether they’re independently created until he knows whether he thinks they’re independently created. Good evidence that evidence isn’t what concerns him, and that what does concern him is agreement with his prior opinions.
Your complaining that you can’t tell the difference confirms that you don’t have anything to add to the discussion.
LOL! I’m loving this.
This is all super hilarious. Bill Cole now seems forced to arguing different strains of E coli found in people’s gut are independent creations.
Yeah it’s totally hilarious. He thinks I assume the strains had a common ancestor. The result of not getting acquainted with the basics.
The original cameras didn’t have batteries, they used very long exposure times to photograph stationary subjects. So cameras can work without the parts you claim they can’t work without. Just like eyes can.
A more fundamental point: Even if it were true that cameras were “irreducibly complex” in the way that @scd claims, it would not follow that eyes are. The two propositions have nothing to do with one another.
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