How does Design Theory deal with this?

“Evolution is a hoax is a hoax”?

According to that video, a byte is almost eight bits. Fascinating!

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when I was a kid, I built computers, and I didn’t know the difference between 8 bit, or 16 bit etc. And never really cared. So I would figure who ever wrote that didn’t see the exacting of words necessary. when you don’t work with something and even if you do, half the time it matters not.

So the guy who made that YEC “science” video didn’t know anything about science. Got it. :slightly_smiling_face:

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try google you can find out these facts pretty easy.

Do you have some sort of a point? With zero genetic variation in each new generation you can’t have any evolution. With too much genetic variation in each new generation you have a population which changes too much to stay viable. Processes evolved which allow enough variation in each generation to allow adaptation/evolution with not so much as to make the population unstable. This has been know to science for half a century.

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I have had this screen name since about 04-05 something like that. Even trump has started regularly using the term Hoax. It was never a commonly used term. Now its very popular. I see it as a part of a movement, like drain the swamp. There is some Old Dead Wood out there that doesn’t want change. I am bringing change by showing huge facts like sediment on every continent km Deep all ocean and not a nice layer by layer evolution. As Darwin said, the fossil record would make or break his theory. It sure did. Bogus doesn’t cut it. Hoax works much better. Evolution is a really big Hoax.
I am glad to be called Hoax or Hoaxy or EiaH and will stick with the screen name. It is my Internet Identity.

Why in the world would you think well known and well understood geology has any negative impact on biological evolution?

Yep. It not only made the theory, when genetic evidence became available the genetic record made the theory a virtual lock.

Do you have anything new to add besides the usual Creationist ignorance based personal incredulity?

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No creationist I know gives the same examination of the fossil record as I do. I have seen some Muslim work done that might be sort of like my work in that they show hundreds of examples of living fossils showing evolution is not necessary.
My point is the rock layers you might have thought where proof of evolution are not. they are proof all the continents where hundreds if not thousands of feet lower and the uplift caused the continental shelves. Its proof that the Idea of a layer by layer proof of evolution is a bogus thing. Evolution is a Hoax and the evidence proves it.

Thanks for the link. However the problem is your link undermines the claim you have made. The system mentioned in the link you gave is DNA mismatch repair, but as is mentioned in that link:
“These proteins ensure that the error rate when a cell replicates its DNA is one hundred to a thousand-fold lower than if the spell-checker system was not in place,”

So in fact, the error rate of DNA replication is greatly reduced by the enzymes, but not zero. So mutations still occur. In fact, the article goes on to say:
“When either of these proteins is mutated in humans, it can result in a predisposition to a hereditary form of colon cancer, known as HNPCC.”

So in humans, who have this enzyme, it can some times mutate(meaning the enzyme failed to prevent it’s own mutation), such that it becomes less effective at correcting mismatched basepairs, leading to an increased rate of mutation.

Thank you for supplying references that undermine your implied claim that the mismatch repair system prevents evolution:

Evolution_is_a_hoax: “There is a spell checker which does not alter the DNA but preserves it. A scribe. What might not be known to some is that this spell checker has priorities and so less important things will get less attention than more important things.
The replication of DNA and spell checking is not a vehicle for the modification of species. It is the exact opposite.”

This is why I asked you to provide references for your claims, because it turned out you had read some pop-sci news article you clearly failed to understand.

Here’s a publication by the featured scientist in your link: DNA replication and mismatch repair safeguard against metabolic imbalances - PMC

It says:

During DNA replication, the major DNA replicative polymerases Polδ and Polε introduce noncomplementary nucleotides approximately once in every 100,000 polymerization events. Proofreading properties of these polymerases improve their fidelity by 10- to 100-fold, and postreplicative DNA mismatch repair (MMR), which acts as a spell checker to remove mismatches that escape polymerase proofreading, improves this fidelity even further, resulting in mutation rates as low as 2 × 10^−10 substitutions per base per cell division (1).

So mismatch repair has the capacity to reduce the rate of point mutations down to as low as one in 20 billion. So not zero, mutations still do slip through this system. Also, that is one in 20 billion pr. cell division, but cells divide a significant number of times between every human generation. IIRC there are over one hundred cell divisions between each human generation, so there are unavoidably many substitution mutations accumulating along the way.

Further still, that one in 20 billion is an estimate for a lower end of the spectrum, with the range spanning over a million fold(see reference 1 given in the above paper).

Your link fails to support your case, and in fact does the opposite. It undermines it with empirical facts, shown by experiments and real-world observations.

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Cool! Please provide the references to your published peer reviewed papers!

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This could be very interesting. But what is your explanation of the record, given that examination?

Wouldn’t it be subsidence that caused the shelves, if anything? Not clear what uplift would have to do with it.

It does not undermine my point. The Point is that there is no mechanism to make changes toward a positive change like a new arm. DNA and its workings have no bent to evolution but against mutation. Mutations that happen go nowhere. And so if one and another would happen you would end up with blob fish not Humans.
The point is clear. without design involved there is no path to any evolution. No mechanism to make such changes and no blue print. We have what we have and when it mutates we end up having death not a better model.

Would that be the Harun Yahya book that shows fishermen’s flies as living organisms?

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Hoax is hardly a word scarcely used in the past, even if Trump’s linguistic deficits lead him to use it excessively.

Claiming that “evolution is a hoax” is like claiming “there is no evidence for evolution”; it’s you telling us that you’re not going to engage the evidence.

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“Positive change” is undefined here. I suggest instead we deal with what matters with respect to evolution, which is reproductive success. Not whatever imaginary arm-sprouting fantasy you have concocted. So what we’d be interested in here is mutations that are beneficial. That these occur is an observed fact, and many, many examples are known from all classes of organisms. Viruses, eukaryotes, prokaryotes.

like a new arm.

Sprouting “a new arm” in some organism isn’t a requirement for the reality of evolution, it’s just some nonsense you made up.

Even so, strange mutations of that sort are actually known, though they weren’t actually beneficial. Scientists working on fruit flies have been able to show that mutations in certain developmental control genes (HOX genes) can cause fruit flies to literally grow legs on their heads.

DNA and its workings have no bent to evolution

It doesn’t have to have “a bent to evolution” for mutations to occur, and for some of those mutations to have beneficial effects on reproductive success.

but against mutation. Mutations that happen go nowhere.

Clearly not. It would be trivial to find examples of mutations with beneficial fitness effects. Just to pick a well-known textbook example, the mutations that caused the beneficial dark phenotype in the evolution of peppered moths during the industrial revolution has been found:
Van’t Hof AE, Campagne P, Rigden DJ, Yung CJ, Lingley J, Quail MA, Hall N, Darby AC, Saccheri IJ. The industrial melanism mutation in British peppered moths is a transposable element. Nature. 2016 Jun 2;534(7605):102-5. DOI:10.1038/nature17951

And so if one and another would happen you would end up with blob fish not Humans.

Blob fish? LOL. That’s my answer to that. Loud laughter.

thats not a bad book. And that fishermens lure is just a plastic version of the real thing. So while that was unfortunate, its not a deal breaker. The glut of fossils that are the same as living things is enough to prove evolution doesn’t happen ans is unnecessary. Fish will always be fish, fern ferns and humans humans. Evolution is not supported by the fossil record. Extinction is.

So rather than a new arm, lets say a larger set of family jewels. if Evolution was true, everyone would be mostly sex organ and very little else. Some of us are less evolved than others clearly!
The fact remains, with Blind DNA with no mechanism toward any meaningful change any sort of list of mutations could happen and you would have an arm or gentiles hanging off the side of your head. You do not even grasp the beauty of how you where created. If you where evolved you would not even look like a blob fish. You just wouldn’t live.
like my computer, it sees my mistakes and corrects them. It does not make new posts for me. I could make a program that could do such a thing but then I would apply that model to DNA and find no matching program.

@evolution_is_a_hoax

If God uses Evolution as one of His methods of creation, you don’t have a leg to stand on.

Peaceful Science is not a pro-atheist site, so arguing against the atheist position is a waste of everyone’s time.