"In the beginning"

Don’t knock “let” :slightly_smiling_face: – it supports an evolutionary perspective: “Let the earth bring forth…”

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@John_Harshman

You mean WE can’t call it that.

Back then, it was common to think “the thing” that the sun, stars and planets circled was “everything”.

Some Creationist factions, however, try to argue that the writer of Genesis knew differently. But there is no indication of that at all.

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That would be something like my point.

Of course you can. That “box” was their universe. “Universe” means everything.

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It would be interesting to imagine a universe in which the water contains other small boxes, perhaps billions of them.

That’s been done. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Not quite. The many-box universe is neither the biblical one nor a multiverse.

Okay. :slightly_smiling_face:

Be careful… :slightly_smiling_face: That’s a tacit statement that the biblical one is the real one, and you certainly don’t want to imply that!

Say what now?

What you said. :slightly_smiling_face:

OK, now you’re just avoiding saying anything just to annoy me. Incidentally, emojis don’t make everything all better.

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I really wasn’t. If you’re annoyed, that’s on you.

What you said:

The “many-box” and the “multiverse” varieties are both imaginary, and in your sentence, the only one left would be the real one, namely the biblical one.

The original language of the text probably does not even have the word “let” in the original text. It would be great if we had the Septuagint translation of this into Greek, which would appear to be closer to the Hebrew than English.

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Yeah, the “let” is strictly the English inference, “Let be”:

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/1961.htm

There. Was that so hard? But your reasoning is faulty. There’s no reason to suppose that if I mention three things, and two of them are imaginary, the third must be real. The biblical universe is not real at all; it’s a one-box universe, you may recall.

You neglect to remember your audience.

A little less cryptic, please. Try saying what you mean rather than dancing around it.

Whoosh, again? Your audience here includes a lot of Christians, and that denotes that in their eyes the biblical is the only real universe and worldview.