[quote=“ThomasTrebilco, post:163, topic:9246”]So it would seem then, that when Jonathan states that:
Jonathan_Burke:
Eddie has been telling us for months that they are. In fact he has been stridently and loudly telling us that such terms should not be associated with ID, specifically because they are explicitly creationist in exactly that sense.
He is misrepresenting your thinking about this subject [Whether ID is a simple political manoeuvre] by conflating ‘ID theory’ with the ‘ID movement’.[/quote]
No. This forum is littered with Eddie doing exactly what I have described; stridently and loudly telling us that such terms should not be associated with ID, specifically because they are explicitly creationist in exactly that sense. This very thread started with that premise, as did his other thread On the Use of the Term “Creationism” in Popular Debate in the Past Century or So.