It’s hard for me to avoid the conclusion that, in many instances, those making these arguments realize the argument holds no water, but also realize that the targets of the con won’t know or care. Those targets being the likes of @colewd and @Giltil.
Similarly, is it really possible that no one in the Trump Administration realizes what an egregious lie it is to claim that Ukraine started the war with Russia? But they are going with it, regardless.