Stephen C. Meyer | The Ben Shapiro Show Sunday

Not in the area of abiogenesis. Can’t have the chicken without the way to code for its meta-assemblage…

LOL! Your frantic tap dancing to avoid admitting ID isn’t science is very entertaining. :slightly_smiling_face:

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in That statement, there is no word of ID or INTELLIGENT DESIGN

first, define what ID hypotheses is and then ask for testability

There is word to not teach things not testable by science and to only include in science things with testable and refutable hypotheses.

That leaves ID out. You lose again.

I agree with this, but ID does not fit with this statement

Abiogenesis is more developed than ID or creationism. There are multiple possible pathways for abiogenesis that are currently being researched. Nothing like that exists for ID/creationism.

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Tappity tappity tap tap tap go the dancing feet dodging the issue. :grin:

ID has no testable and falsifiable hypotheses. End of story.

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Yet you can’t give us a single testable and refutable hypothesis from ID.

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then why you afraid to define what ID hypotheses is?

ID is your claim. Your job to provide testable and falsifiable hypotheses to test ID’s tenets, not mine.

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only when you define it and i agree that your definition is right

One more evasion noted.

Since ID makes no testable and falsifiable hypotheses, ID isn’t science.

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If you don’t even know what a scientific hypothesis is you shouldn’t be in this conversation.

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How about ID is the hypothesis that some observations in our universe are best explained by intelligent cause or a mind.

An example is irreducibly complex structures we see in the cell.

Now all you have to do is explain how to test the idea with biological entities and what would falsify the idea. Edgar sure can’t.

ETA: Countdown until Bill mentions the spliceosome 5…4…3… :wink:

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America is ID’s only hope. So if it’s not having success here it’s not having success. I mean, hold out for Turkey I guess.

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More precisely, scientific illiteracy in the US is ID’s only hope.

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Since you are a biological entity by communicating what you just did you tested the hypothesis.

The same code you generated which started with english characters and was transformed into digital ones and zeros can be used to build irreducibly complex structures in a manufacturing plant.

That merely shows biological entities like humans can intelligently design things, something most of us already knew. It doesn’t show humans or other biological entities were Designed.

FAIL again Bill.

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