Were the Ancients Aware of a Globe? (plus a little child psychology thrown in for fun)

[thoughtful (Valerie (non-scientist))]

@AllenWitmerMiller

Nothing is said about “circumnavigating the globe” as you claim. There is no mention of a globe or spherical planet earth at all. It should not be surprising that so many of the ancients realized that no matter what direction they travelled on land, they would eventually reach a coast. So they could also easily imagine circumnavigating — sailing completely around — that land mass and any islands in those waters.

Circumnagivation can be applied to circumnavigating the entire planet as Magellan did but it also applies to circumnavigating the Mediterranean Sea (visiting many of the key ports along the way) and circumnavigating the islands of Japans as submarines did during WWII.

Yes, you have totally misrepresented what the Sargon of Akkade text says. Some claim that the Vikings were the first to circumnavigate Great Britain. Would you thereby claim that the Vikings circumnavigated the globe?

Yes, I think the Vikings may have circumnavigated the globe.

But for Sargon to travel around the Mediterranean only doesn’t make sense. I checked back and I did not included some relevant information in the original post. The legends directly mention the upper and lower sea. Sargon’s claim had to include the Mediterranean Sea and Persian Gulf and IS a claim about going between them at least, and at minimum require sailing around Africa.

Here are various legends:
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He conquered the city of Uruk, destroyed its walls, defeated the people of Uruk (in battle), he smashed with the tun.kara-weapon. He defeated Lugalzagesi, the king of Uruk, and captured him and led him off to the gate of Enlil in a neck stock. Sargon, the king of Agade, defeated the people of Ur, smashed with the tun.kar-weapon, conquered his city, and destroyed its walls. He conquered E-Ninmarki, and destroyed its walls. He conquered the territory from the neck of the land, (that is) city of Lagash, to the (lower) sea and washed his weapon in the sea. He defeated the people of Umma, smashed with the tun.karaweapon, and he conquered his city, destroyed its walls."

Ebla is in Syria

Sargon the King bowed down to Dagan in Tuttul. He (Dagan) gave to him (Sargon) the Upper Land: Mari, Iarmuti, and Ebla, as far as the Cedar Forest and the Silver Mountains

"For Sargon, king of the land, the god Enlil never gave the rival, and he gave him (Sargon) the region from the upper sea to the lower sea

We also know around this time people were migrating all over the globe as we have evidence of human civilization in the Americas. So, again, how could he NOT be saying he’s sailing around the world as a globe 3 times? (My memory was bad, and I said 4)