I don’t understand this. The preservation of fossils is determined by the nature of the environment in which they died, which in the case of a Flood would be the ocean waters. Drowned dinosaurs would have the same preservation potential as dead whales.
The reason we see fewer land animal fossils than marine fossils is that the land environment is far less favourable to fossil preservation than the marine environment. In the Flood, everything was marine environment. The argument fails at the first hurdle.
Personal opinion - it’s very hard to figure out sometimes exactly what’s flood and post-flood. Perhaps some dino fossils are flood fossils if the dinos made it to highest ground before they perished and were some of the last creatures alive. Just a guess, maybe a very unscientific one since I haven’t studied this. But I see no reason why they wouldn’t have also existed along with the mega fauna for a time until the climate changed dramatically.
There are human remains after the flood obviously.
The smiley face there was intended to convey I was being a little bit silly.
Noah and his wife, and Shem, Ham, and Japheth and their wives were born before the flood and were on the ark, so do you suppose they never taught their children about anything they learned before the flood?
Let’s see: Noah lived 600 years before the flood, and 350 years after it - that’s a lot of time to teach grandkids and great-great-great-grandkids and everyone in between.
Genesis 9:28
And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years. 29 So all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years; and he died.
Shem lived either 98 or 100 years before the flood:
Genesis 11:10
This is the genealogy of Shem: Shem was one hundred years old, and begot Arphaxad two years after the flood.
And he had 500 years to teach a whole lot of great-grands too.
After he begot Arphaxad, Shem lived five hundred years, and begot sons and daughters.
I wasn’t serious in the first quote and was being a bit silly.
In the second, you missed the part where I showed AIG doesn’t maintain dinosaurs were all killed in the flood. I didn’t cite a source I had seen recently where Ken Ham specifically mentions they likely died from climate change. And I was already aware they explain thy were brought on the ark.
When I was a kid in the 80s, it was basically - dinosaurs died in the flood.
So I knew a very little to be silly and question assumptions, but I don’t know enough to respond without looking up more information.
How did Noah come to know enough about Chinese traditions to pass them on to his descendants? How did it happen that his descendants who moved to China continued Chinese traditions, his descendants who moved to Egypt continued Egyption traditions, his descendants who moved to the Americas continued American traditions etc etc etc???
When you’ve explained why anyone should take any notice of someone who doesn’t know the difference between a plough and a plough-plane, perhaps you could also explain why you referenced an article with such an obvious error. When you’ve done that, you could explain why you think this article is at all relevant to the continuation of Chinese culture pre- to post-flood. Or should we just skip ahead to the conclusion that you haven’t the faintest idea what you’re talking about?
Why go to AIG?? There are many introductory geology websites from reputable universities where you can learn about the subject from the professionals in the field.
What it conveys, if anything, is that nothing you say can be taken as anything other than facetious. And that seems to be true. You won’t defend any position you take. Dinosaur fossils before the flood, during the flood, after the flood? Who knows? Human fossils (the original subject)? Forgotten entirely except for the vacuous comment “There are human remains after the flood obviously.” It’s impossible to talk to you. Are you familiar with the phrase “like nailing jello to the wall”?
Bronze Age technology arose gradually during the appropriately named Bronze Age. Why are there no bronze objects in Flood sediments? And writing systems didn’t appear either all the sudden or at the same time.
@thoughtful has mentioned cognitive dissonance in other posts, and I think it is a step forward when people can recognize that they may be suffering from some sort of bias.
I’m not sure how I’m not getting through here. There were pre-flood cultural traditions. Noah and family passed them on to their children, etc who populated the world to create the Chinese, Egyptian culture etc.
But you said that Noah’s family created the Bronze Age, and that they learned that technology before the flood. Can you at least try to keep your story straight between posts?
Then you aren’t paying attention. Even your own source describes a gradual process:
Maybe I’ve misunderstood. You seems to be saying that there were Chinese and Egyptian pre-flood cultures that were continued by Noah’s descendants post-flood.
No - others thought I was saying that as well, and I’m not sure how they got that. Perhaps I wasn’t clear.
I think the post-flood culture is not hard to pick out - Ziggurats, cuneiform and its variants, flood stories, all the things we attribute to the Bronze Age - now I’d probably add ostrich farming to the list.
I think these reflect some of what the pre-flood culture was like. After the flood and Tower of Babel, people migrated and kept parts but it melded into their own cultural traditions.
The Neolithic period, which began in China around 10,000 B.C. and concluded with the introduction of metallurgy about 8,000 years later, was characterized by the development of settled communities that relied primarily on farming and domesticated animals rather than hunting and gathering. In China, as in other areas of the world, Neolithic settlements grew up along the main river systems. Those that dominate the geography of China are the Yellow (central and northern China) and the Yangzi (southern and eastern China).
A distinctly Chinese artistic tradition can be traced to the middle of the Neolithic period, about 4000 B.C. Two groups of artifacts provide the earliest surviving evidence of this tradition. It is now thought that these cultures developed their own traditions for the most part independently, creating distinctive kinds of architecture and types of burial customs, but with some communication and cultural exchange between them.
Amazing how all that was carried to China after the 2500 BC Flood. Maybe the space aliens loaned Noah’s sons their flying saucer.
But I think the lesson here is how very difficult it can be to change beliefs even when presenting simple facts.
