Evolution and Salvation

I clearly acknowledged “ancient… thinkers” in the comment you replied to.

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I’m not good at this. Maybe YHWH or Yahweh is actually a similarity title to the words that the ancient people understood there. There is an article that state: initially God when asked by Musa (Moses), answered I am what I am. YHWH could be a passionate deity expecting exclusive love. So the name of the Almighty God can be different.

God reveals his name to Moses as “I am,” from the Hebrew root ה.ו.י, “being.” The name YHWH, however, originates in Midian, and derives from the Arabic term for “love, desire, or passion.”

In Quran:
Surah An-Naml (27) Verse 9

[And God spoke thus:] O Moses! Verily I alone am God, the Almighty, the Wise!"

https://muhammadasad.com/27/9

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It probably has something to do with not following Jesus’ two commandments.

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Could that be do to evolution not being taught in schools? Do you know if evolution is taught in Catholic schools and universities?

Can you share your reservations?

The first time I formally learnt about evolution was in secondary (high) school. After telling us about the evidence for evolution, my biology teacher told the class not to believe it, that God created us all.

If I was taught about it, it most likely means every other secondary school was supposed to teach it. Its also likely most teachers would cast doubt on the validity of the theory.

In university, surprisingly, I never heard of it. We took a course on population genetics, but terms like natural selection and drift were never mentioned. There must be universities where it is taught as a discipline on it’s own, but that’s unlikely to change the largely creationist mindset amongst Nigerian students.

For Catholic secondary schools, it should be taught if they are strictly following the WAEC syllabus (which includes evolutionary theory).

For universities, there are only two Catholic universities (Madonna and Veritas) in Nigeria. I don’t think they have a separate or combined department for evolutionary biology. They might, however, offer basic introduction to evolutionary theory. It usually appears as “genetics and evolution”.

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Not only that, but market economies are a splendid example of order emerging from chaos – just the sort of thing the DI likes to claim cannot happen without direction from above. And yet, the DI’s supporters are not exactly lining up to live under a Marxist command economy, which would impose exactly the same sort of top-down “order” that they think makes life itself possible.

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No. Read Exodus 3:13-15:

Then Moses said to God, “If I come to the people of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ what shall I say to them?” 14 God said to Moses, “I am who I am.”[a] And he said, “Say this to the people of Israel: ‘I am has sent me to you.’” 15 God also said to Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel: ‘The Lord,[b] the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and thus I am to be remembered throughout all generations.

  1. Exodus 3:15 The word Lord , when spelled with capital letters, stands for the divine name, YHWH , which is here connected with the verb hayah , “to be” in verse 14

You can look at the Hebrew: Exodus 3:14 Interlinear: And God saith unto Moses, 'I AM THAT WHICH I AM;' He saith also, 'Thus dost thou say to the sons of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.'

The Quran does not confirm this name as the name of God.

If you read carefully, you will see that’s not what he was saying.

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'eh.yeh = I am

So what’s not confirmed?

Surah An-Naml (27) Verse 9
[And God spoke thus:] O Moses! Verily I alone am God, the Almighty, the Wise! "

Verily I alone am God

From Wiki Allah - Wikipedia

The etymology of the word Allāh has been discussed extensively by classical Arab philologists.[18] Grammarians of the Basra school regarded it as either formed “spontaneously” (murtajal) or as the definite form of lāh (from the verbal root lyh with the meaning of “lofty” or “hidden”).[18] Others held that it was borrowed from Syriac or Hebrew, but most considered it to be derived from a contraction of the Arabic definite article al- “the” and ilāh “deity, god” to al-lāh meaning “the deity”, or “the God”.[18] The majority of modern scholars subscribe to the latter theory, and view the loanword hypothesis with skepticism.[19]

Cognates of the name “Allāh” exist in other Semitic languages, including Hebrew and Aramaic.[20] The corresponding Aramaic form is Elah (אלה), but its emphatic state is Elaha (אלהא). It is written as ܐܠܗܐ (ʼĔlāhā) in Biblical Aramaic and ܐܲܠܵܗܵܐ (ʼAlâhâ) in Syriac as used by the Assyrian Church, both meaning simply “God”.[21] Biblical Hebrew mostly uses the plural (but functional singular) form Elohim (אלהים‎), but more rarely it also uses the singular form Eloah (אלוהּ‎).

3:15 And God said further to Moses, “Thus shall you speak to the Israelites: ‘YHWH, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This shall be My name forever, this My appellation for all eternity.”

Replace YHWH with I am and the God with Allah…

3:15 And God said further to Moses, “Thus shall you speak to the Israelites: ‘I am, Allah of your fathers, Allah of Abraham, Allah of Isaac, and Allah of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This shall be My name forever, this My appellation for all eternity.”

ג:טו וַיֹּאמֶר עוֹד אֱלֹהִים אֶל מֹשֶׁה כֹּה תֹאמַר אֶל בְּנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל יְ־הוָה אֱלֹהֵי אֲבֹתֵיכֶם אֱלֹהֵי אַבְרָהָם אֱלֹהֵי יִצְחָק וֵאלֹהֵי יַעֲקֹב שְׁלָחַנִי אֲלֵיכֶם זֶה שְּׁמִי לְעֹלָם וְזֶה זִכְרִי לְדֹר דֹּר

I know. Based on previous discussions with him, he knows the correct way to put it, but he sometimes goes ahead to state it wrongly anyway. I decided to ignore it, but its good you called it out.

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Are you allowed to call Allah Yahweh? Do you call Him that? Would your imam be OK with it?

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In Indonesia, we can say the name of Allah by many call such as Tuhan (Bahasa), Rabbi or Rabb (Arabic) or Gusti Allah (Javanese Language means Lord Allah) because Indonesian culture is so diverse.

Of course, we have got a description of YHWH from where it came from and actually it is not YHWH but 'eh.yeh which means “I am”. Then why call God by the name “I am” and YHWH? I cant understand what you mean. Today, the Almighty God in the Koran is written as Allah the Lord of all and Muslims refer to Him as such.

Now in the rituals of worship (prayer/shalat), Muslims follow the procedures that have been taught by the Prophet Muhammad and those that have been followed by his companions, all of which are read in Arabic, but for du’a (doa/small prayer) we can use the language we understand.

They are not right. There is no argument. You must confess that Jesus is Lord and Savior and that God the Father raised Him from the dead, that earns your salvation. But you must believe it in your heart, not just say it. You must live as though you believe it, not just say that you believe and then go rob a bank…

Salvation is a heart condition, not a mind condition. Understanding science does not disqualify you from heaven, but rather God uses your talents and gifts for thinking for His purpose.

How do you know? What if Satan really planted those fossils or arranged the geological column the way it is to trick man? If God could allow Satan to test Job’s faith, then it’s possible that God could have allowed Satan to warp reality to sway Christians into believing things not aligned with the YEC interpretation of scripture.

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Sorry if this is off-topic, but it always bothers me how some people can concede so much power to “Satan”. If this sort of warping of reality for deception is possible, then nothing can be trusted; Even scriptures could be warped.

We require a fundamental trust that the world we perceive is the real world, other wise we can’t get anything done.

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I know because I study the bible. I have dedicated my life to understanding God’s word. There is nothing that says that seeking intelligence is sin. Sin is the only thing that excludes you from eternal life. I agree that not all Christians will enter heaven, but because they sin, not because they believe in evolution. If that were the case, you could make an argument that doctors and chemists and astrophysicists all will be excluded because they question the miracles of life.

I just don’t buy it. I challenge anyone to find a scripture that says that understanding science is a sin.

True, but if the YEC interpretation of scripture is the true one, then evolutionary theory is a false teaching and the bible promises strict punishment for the purveyors and believers of false teachings.

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IMO, YEC poses a false dichotomy, that the opposite of truth is falsehood.

“The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.”
– Niels Bohr

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No one knows the true extent of Satan’s powers, but it’s likely he could do the things I mentioned.

Its certainly possible. The scripture says the world lies in the hand of Satan and that he frequently appears as “an Angel of light”. Its possible he fiddles with scientific instruments of measurement to give results that clash with the YEC interpretation of scripture.

The Bible makes Christians to understand that the devil uses everything in his arsenal to deceive the saint. If that includes manipulating our perception of reality, then he would do it.